Chiefs I've finally changed my mind about Todd Haley - Page 3

**RealSNR** · 11-22-2011, 12:15 AM

Ignoring his unimpressive W/L record as a head coach, it was apparent after tonight that the idiot has learned absolutely NOTHING about being a head coach in the NFL.

He knows nothing about gameday decisions. He goes for it on 4th down at times when the reward isn't worth the risks, and then turns into Herm's vagina when he should (like tonight in the first quarter).

Hiring Bill Muir was a ****ing shitfest.

Not replacing Lilja OR Weigmann in the past couple of games has been giving our shitty QBs no time to throw whatsoever.

Not figuring out how to stop Tim ****ing Tebow by simply PLAYING THE GODDAMN RUN.

Putting your team in the hands of a garbage player that not even amateur leagues wanted over a QB who could actually be better than feces

And there are so many more.

He's been at this position for three goddamn years, people. Most coaches, if they're any good, start to show flashes of brilliance by their 2nd year. In their 3rd year, they at the very least field a competitive team.

He's good at coaching and player development in the offseason? Newsflash: EVERY coach can find diamonds in the rough. Even Herm had a bunch.

Cassel is the first guy who needs to go. But Haley is a pretty ****ing close second. I'll be pretty pissed if we keep this jackass around next year.

Hammock Parties · 11-22-2011, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Shove your cliches right up your ass and use The Tree as the tamper.

Who would have thought that "The Tree" would give our organization AIDS.

**DeezNutz** · 11-22-2011, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by nose

That might be getting a little too carried away no?

Playoff victory?

This was Haley's "Huard starting at Denver moment." Results about the same?

FAX · 11-22-2011, 01:01 AM

I'm concerned.

FAX THE CONCERNED

Hammock Parties · 11-22-2011, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Clean out the entire mess. Top down.

Best we can hope for is Cassel or Haley gone in the immediate.

If we get REALLY lucky, both. Like, a car hits one of them in the offseason.

Pioli is here for at least two more seasons.

Hammock Parties · 11-22-2011, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Playoff victory?

This was Haley's "Huard starting at Denver moment." Results about the same?

9-6, 34-3

about the same

tdurden58 · 11-22-2011, 01:04 AM

I hear the old AC at Penn State Sandusky is looking for work... prob be a better fit with this team. .

Halfcan · 11-22-2011, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I don't know if there's been a tandem in NFL history that has come to an organization with more pomp and bravado than Pioli and Haley and failed as miserably.

We're not about the sizzle. Riiiiiggghhhtt, Scott. You two clowns are all fizzle. Shove your cliches right up your ass and use The Tree as the tamper.

I know and the smug look on Clarks face-the 3 amigos acted like they had already won multiple super bowls-lol

**DeezNutz** · 11-22-2011, 01:06 AM

OK, so Pioli puked all over himself in the off-season and assembled a roster devoid of depth. Whether he was hand-tied by Hunt is immaterial. What we know is that someone is going to have to fall on this miserable sword, and this someone will almost certainly be Haley, who has done nothing to absolve himself of a good deal of blame for this team's ineptitude.

Next HC of the Chiefs? Jeff Fisher.

Why? Complete opposite. Defensive minded. Previous HCing experience. "Proven winner." Won't demand total control of the organization.

Pioli will go into full on save-his-own-ass mode and venture outside of The Tree to try to land a "sure thing."

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-22-2011, 01:08 AM

If Pioli thought that he was going to be financially handcuffed by Hunt he would have never taken the offer. It's not like Cleveland didn't offer him the job.

Hammock Parties · 11-22-2011, 01:10 AM

Jeff Fisher would be an improvement. At this point, whatever perceived warts he has, are offset by the fact that he resembles Bill Walsh in comparison to the last six years.

Brock · 11-22-2011, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

OK, so Pioli puked all over himself in the off-season and assembled a roster devoid of depth. Whether he was hand-tied by Hunt is immaterial. What we know is that someone is going to have to fall on this miserable sword, and this someone will almost certainly be Haley, who has done nothing to absolve himself of a good deal of blame for this team's ineptitude.

Next HC of the Chiefs? Jeff Fisher.

Why? Complete opposite. Defensive minded. Previous HCing experience. "Proven winner." Won't demand total control of the organization.

Pioli will go into full on save-his-own-ass mode and venture outside of The Tree to try to land a "sure thing."

The sad thing is, like a goddamn pavlovian dog, I find myself thinking Fisher looks good right now.

**DeezNutz** · 11-22-2011, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If Pioli thought that he was going to be financially handcuffed by Hunt he would have never taken the offer. It's not like Cleveland didn't offer him the job.

To a certain extent I agree. But I cannot help but compare him to Dayton Moore, who also, presumably, received certain assurances from Glass before accepting the job in KC. However, the situation on the ground sometimes doesn't mirror the sweet talk that occurs during recruiting visits, as it would be unlikely that payroll dollar amounts would make it into a contract.

Halfcan · 11-22-2011, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

OK, so Pioli puked all over himself in the off-season and assembled a roster devoid of depth. Whether he was hand-tied by Hunt is immaterial. What we know is that someone is going to have to fall on this miserable sword, and this someone will almost certainly be Haley, who has done nothing to absolve himself of a good deal of blame for this team's ineptitude.

Next HC of the Chiefs? Jeff Fisher.

Why? Complete opposite. Defensive minded. Previous HCing experience. "Proven winner." Won't demand total control of the organization.

Pioli will go into full on save-his-own-ass mode and venture outside of The Tree to try to land a "sure thing."

??? what makes you think that?? Fisher was always a pretty solid coach-he never had much to work with but seemed to get the most out of the crap he had.

**DeezNutz** · 11-22-2011, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

The sad thing is, like a goddamn pavlovian dog, I find myself thinking Fisher looks good right now.

There's no question. We'd be tougher, meaner, better prepared, and consistent playoff contenders.

And then promptly get bounced in the first round.

But, ****, that BBQ smells good.

**DeezNutz** · 11-22-2011, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

??? what makes you think that?? Fisher was always a pretty solid coach-he never had much to work with but seemed to get the most out of the crap he had.

Complete guess, but based on the fact that the next hire is usually the opposite of what just failed.

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