Football Pats/Chiefs: A few final thoughts - Page 6

Amnorix · 11-22-2011, 08:54 AM

So a few thoughts on last night's game.

1. Haley's decision to NOT go for it on 4th down and 1 from the Pats ~40 made no sense to me. Even though he punted and the defense held and the Chiefs got the ball back, it seems to me that you're 4-5 and the season is slipping away. Pats defense isn't reminding anyone of the 2000 Ravens or '86 Giants. Go for it.

2. I liked the decision to do the onsides kick. But then you remember they didn't go for it on 4th and 1. Que?

3. Holding call on . . . . errr, that Pope? Whoever it was that wiped out Edelman. Yeah, ticky-tack.

4. Endless bitching about refs in the game thread -- pathetic. Just pathetic, endless "the refs SCREWED us!!!111 giggity giggity". Just stop it. Make the complaint and move on. EVERY team in the NFL thinks the refs are out to get them. My Dad spent 50 years bitching about refs and umpires in every inning, quarter and period of every sport he ever watched. It was stupid then for him, and it's stupid now for you.

5. Palko doesn't seem like the real deal. He's young yet, so maybe, but...

6. Don't worry about the Chiefs seeming inability to cover Gronk. Nobody can. He's just a beast.

7. Chiefs defense seemed pretty good, overall. I imagine ti will be much better when Berry is back.

8. Pats came out really flat in the first half, but credit to the Chiefs also. They showed spirit for a good while.

9. Running up the score -- I don't mind Belichick going for it on 4th down late near the end zone. Punting isn't an option, and kicking a FG is stupid, but I'd much rather just man up and run it up the middle rather than what we did. At least this proves that BB does it to everybody, even his buddy Pioli. He's consistent, I'll say that. Pats have no right, ever, to bitch about anybody rolling up the score on them though.

10. Alot of very sad posts in the game thread about trying to hurt Patriots players now that the score is out of control. WTF kind of Raiders-esque thinking is that by Chiefs fans? And if any of them is a parent, WTF kind of sportsmanship is that?

11. Nobody will know if the Patriots really have a good team until the playoffs. The rest of it's schedule is a cake-walk. They may really be pretty good, especially once some of the injured bodies come back, or another one-and-done.

12. Patriots' "lowest ranked defense". I'm hearing that alot, on TV and around here. Yes, BY YARDS. But the Pats defense is middle of the pack by points, the only thing that matters. Not that the defense is all that good -- it isn't, but this "NFL's worst defense" is a tad misleading.

bwisnasky · 11-22-2011, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by frankotank

no trolling going on here!

Never meant to be a troll.... can't stand the guys that do.... Just pointing out the irony of complaining about a pro team running up the score... that's what they get paid to do. Personally, I had no problems with KC trying to score in the last 2 minutes against Oakland.. and as such, I had no problems with Belichek doing the same last night..... In any case, I love reading CP as you guys are always intelligent, and quite humorous and entertaining. I thank all of you for your wisdom and appreciate your points of view...

DJJasonp · 11-22-2011, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

So a few thoughts on last night's game.

11. Nobody will know if the Patriots really have a good team until the playoffs. The rest of it's schedule is a cake-walk. They may really be pretty good, especially once some of the injured bodies come back, or another one-and-done.
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I work with a pats fan - and this is the kind of drivel I have to put up with on a consistent basis. Pats fans take so much for granted, they dont realize how arrogant they can be with comments like this.

Treasure these moments.....

GloryDayz · 11-22-2011, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bwisnasky

Never meant to be a troll.... can't stand the guys that do.... Just pointing out the irony of complaining about a pro team running up the score... that's what they get paid to do. Personally, I had no problems with KC trying to score in the last 2 minutes against Oakland.. and as such, I had no problems with Belichek doing the same last night..... In any case, I love reading CP as you guys are always intelligent, and quite humorous and entertaining. I thank all of you for your wisdom and appreciate your points of view...

I'll bet you just want to break our knees!

R8RFAN · 11-22-2011, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp

I work with a pats fan - and this is the kind of drivel I have to put up with on a consistent basis. Pats fans take so much for granted, they dont realize how arrogant they can be with comments like this.

Treasure these moments.....

They found that once in a lifetime QB and made the most of it... Remove Brady and that team is average at best.

GloryDayz · 11-22-2011, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers

They found that once in a lifetime QB and made the most of it... Remove Brady and that team is average at best.

Hey, at least the Chiefs have a track record of trying to remove him. Ugh, and we end up with cAsshole because of it.. Fail!

R8RFAN · 11-22-2011, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Hey, at least the Chiefs have a track record of trying to remove him. Ugh, and we end up with cAsshole because of it.. Fail!

Probably gonna piss off a few by saying this but if Cassel had been in there last night you would have scored more than 3 and converted on alot more of those drives you got on their side of the field without all the INT's..

Also Cassel throws much better than Palko.

I realize that Cassel is hurt and the team had no choice very similar to my Raiders when you guys destroyed us with Boller but to all those haters who said it can't get worse than Cassel... It just did. I watched the game this morning at 6 am and the cute plays were disgusting, Haley made it worse by having Palko run around like a kid with extreme ADD... The Palko lead offense looked bad and nothing like I have seen in many years of watching the Chiefs.. Cassel may not be the best qb for you guys but he is light years ahead of Palko.

Amnorix · 11-22-2011, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp

I work with a pats fan - and this is the kind of drivel I have to put up with on a consistent basis. Pats fans take so much for granted, they dont realize how arrogant they can be with comments like this.

Treasure these moments.....

Dude, I'm 40. I treasure winning in the regular season, but you gotta understand -- the window on Brady is closing. Every year without a championship is hollow under these circumstances. Plus the pressure is mounting after 3 straight years of no polayoff victories.

**mlyonsd** · 11-22-2011, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Dude, I'm 40. I treasure winning in the regular season, but you gotta understand -- the window on Brady is closing. Every year without a championship is hollow under these circumstances. Plus the pressure is mounting after 3 straight years of no polayoff victories.

You bastard.

Amnorix · 11-22-2011, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd

You bastard.

htismaqe · 11-22-2011, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers

Probably gonna piss off a few by saying this but if Cassel had been in there last night you would have scored more than 3 and converted on alot more of those drives you got on their side of the field without all the INT's..

Also Cassel throws much better than Palko.

I realize that Cassel is hurt and the team had no choice very similar to my Raiders when you guys destroyed us with Boller but to all those haters who said it can't get worse than Cassel... It just did. I watched the game this morning at 6 am and the cute plays were disgusting, Haley made it worse by having Palko run around like a kid with extreme ADD... The Palko lead offense looked bad and nothing like I have seen in many years of watching the Chiefs.. Cassel may not be the best qb for you guys but he is light years ahead of Palko.

Everybody knows what you're up to...the longer Cassel is here, the better it is for your Raiders...

R8RFAN · 11-22-2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Everybody knows what you're up to...the longer Cassel is here, the better it is for your Raiders...

I have no control whatsoever on your QB situation... Would I rather have Cassel here than Aaron Rodgers? Of course but if after last night you think Palko is the answer, you are nuttier than squirrel shit, that guy looked like a bad arena football QB

htismaqe · 11-22-2011, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers

I have no control whatsoever on your QB situation... Would I rather have Cassel here than Aaron Rodgers? Of course but if after last night you think Palko is the answer, you are nuttier than squirrel shit, that guy looked like a bad arena football QB

Nobody thinks Palko is the answer. We just KNOW that Cassel isn't the answer...

**Rain Man** · 11-22-2011, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Dude, I'm 40. I treasure winning in the regular season, but you gotta understand -- the window on Brady is closing. Every year without a championship is hollow under these circumstances. Plus the pressure is mounting after 3 straight years of no polayoff victories.

You're in Calcutta in an alleyway eating filet mignon and drinking 30 year-old scotch, and we're all street urchins who are very interested in your complaints about the lack of richness of the bernaise sauce.

R8RFAN · 11-22-2011, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Nobody thinks Palko is the answer. We just KNOW that Cassel isn't the answer...

That may very well be true but sometimes you have to look at the play calling as well... I just think you guys are looking for someone to burn at the stake and the QB is the easiest to blame...

**HemiEd** · 11-22-2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers

That may very well be true but sometimes you have to look at the play calling as well... I just think you guys are looking for someone to burn at the stake and the QB is the easiest to blame...

Like Parker said, we know what you are up to. 2 1/2 years of Cassel was enough of a sample, we know he is not capable.

11-22-2011, 08:54 AM
Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $10029808	Pats/Chiefs: A few final thoughts So a few thoughts on last night's game. 1. Haley's decision to NOT go for it on 4th down and 1 from the Pats ~40 made no sense to me. Even though he punted and the defense held and the Chiefs got the ball back, it seems to me that you're 4-5 and the season is slipping away. Pats defense isn't reminding anyone of the 2000 Ravens or '86 Giants. Go for it. 2. I liked the decision to do the onsides kick. But then you remember they didn't go for it on 4th and 1. Que? 3. Holding call on . . . . errr, that Pope? Whoever it was that wiped out Edelman. Yeah, ticky-tack. 4. Endless bitching about refs in the game thread -- pathetic. Just pathetic, endless "the refs SCREWED us!!!111 giggity giggity". Just stop it. Make the complaint and move on. EVERY team in the NFL thinks the refs are out to get them. My Dad spent 50 years bitching about refs and umpires in every inning, quarter and period of every sport he ever watched. It was stupid then for him, and it's stupid now for you. 5. Palko doesn't seem like the real deal. He's young yet, so maybe, but... 6. Don't worry about the Chiefs seeming inability to cover Gronk. Nobody can. He's just a beast. 7. Chiefs defense seemed pretty good, overall. I imagine ti will be much better when Berry is back. 8. Pats came out really flat in the first half, but credit to the Chiefs also. They showed spirit for a good while. 9. Running up the score -- I don't mind Belichick going for it on 4th down late near the end zone. Punting isn't an option, and kicking a FG is stupid, but I'd much rather just man up and run it up the middle rather than what we did. At least this proves that BB does it to everybody, even his buddy Pioli. He's consistent, I'll say that. Pats have no right, ever, to bitch about anybody rolling up the score on them though. 10. Alot of very sad posts in the game thread about trying to hurt Patriots players now that the score is out of control. WTF kind of Raiders-esque thinking is that by Chiefs fans? And if any of them is a parent, WTF kind of sportsmanship is that? 11. Nobody will know if the Patriots really have a good team until the playoffs. The rest of it's schedule is a cake-walk. They may really be pretty good, especially once some of the injured bodies come back, or another one-and-done. 12. Patriots' "lowest ranked defense". I'm hearing that alot, on TV and around here. Yes, BY YARDS. But the Pats defense is middle of the pack by points, the only thing that matters. Not that the defense is all that good -- it isn't, but this "NFL's worst defense" is a tad misleading.
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