Football Carl Peterson Part Deux - Page 8

**notorious** · 02-28-2009, 02:57 PM

This all seems very familiar. Carl liked to trade picks for veterans that got everyone excited. The only difference is that it looks like Pioli spent a little less in terms of draft picks to get them.

With that said I am not a fan of Cassel.

What does everyone else think?

**BigMeatballDave** · 04-20-2010, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Alright Pioli, here is your chance to fix this.

Bring in Clausen, and if you can't bring yourself to take a shot at a championship someday, pick Berry. At least he won't be a total ****ing joke.

Did you notice I already discovered my mistake back in december?

**Tribal Warfare** · 04-20-2010, 06:21 PM

If this is another "safe" draft, I expect more below average outings from KC because of the simple fact that they are afraid to fail or bust on a pick on a player with elite talent.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-20-2010, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Crow buffet.

**notorious** · 04-20-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD

Did you notice I already discovered my mistake back in december?

My apologies.

I removed you from the walk of shame.

**notorious** · 11-23-2011, 08:42 AM

It's time again..........

Deberg_1990 · 11-23-2011, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

This all seems very familiar. Carl liked to trade picks for veterans that got everyone excited. The only difference is that it looks like Pioli spent a little less in terms of draft picks to get them.

With that said I am not a fan of Cassel.

What does everyone else think?

Wow, nice bump......Notorious was a prophet!

**kysirsoze** · 11-23-2011, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead

Carl Traded for Trent Green at early 30s for a first rounder. Pioli got a 26 year old qb and a starting LB for a 2nd round. Nuff said

If only we got the value Carl got in that trade.

**notorious** · 11-23-2011, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Wow, nice bump......Notorious was a prophet!

Probably the only thing I have been right about......

....and I wish I was wrong.

Keep reading, I posted a horrifically dumbass statement myself. Nobody is safe.

GloryDayz · 11-23-2011, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

I think you're an idiot.

You shut your pie hole numbnuts!!! God, I can tolerate ignorance, but you're the suck-up ingnorant type. Go lick Clark bucket boy!

SenselessChiefsFan · 11-23-2011, 09:01 AM

I notice this didn't get bumped last year, when Cassel was offensive player of the month, or after last season when the Chiefs won the division and Cassel went to the Pro Bowl.

I am still a fan of the trade. I am still in favor of NOT drafting Sanchez.

Now, do I want an upgrade over Cassel? Yes, please. Do I blame him for the Chiefs being 4-6? No.

Cassel is what I thought he was. A hard worker that will do what the coaches ask and that can be successful when surrounded with talent.

A second round pick for Cassel is still much better than what teams normally give up for a QB. Look at the Palmer trade. Look at the Kolb trade. Look at the AJ Feeley trade. I know there are others.

Heck, look at the Trent Green trade.

The Texans gave up far more for Schaub, who has not even won a division.

The price was on par with what the Chiefs got. A servicable starting QB.

Hammock Parties · 11-23-2011, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by burt

My point is, Pioli is VERY familiar with Cassel. If he were trading for a perceived "great Quaterback" that he wasn't SO familier with, it's be agamble. Very little gamble here, and I don't expect failure. Oh, and I still like Thigpen.

Great post. Sharp football mind at work.

**doomy3** · 11-23-2011, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

You shut your pie hole numbnuts!!! God, I can tolerate ignorance, but you're the suck-up ingnorant type. Go lick Clark bucket boy!

What the **** is wrong with you? Yes, I am sucking up to Clark on a ****ing message board. Yes, that's it.

You have to be the dumbest mother****er to post on any message board.

**doomy3** · 11-23-2011, 10:51 AM

The problem with 2009, IMO, is STILL not the Cassel trade. It is that we blew the pick we had on Tyson Jackson. If we choose Raji or someone else with value there instead, then the Cassel trade was still a good trade. If people are crucifying Pioli over something, it should be that, not that he didn't pick Mark Sanchez at #3 overall. That would have been a disaster as well. Let's see what happens when we have a chance at a true franchise QB, not someone like Sanchez. If Pioli doesn't pick him, then the Carl comparisons could make some sense.

**notorious** · 11-23-2011, 12:27 PM

I will say this, Pioli hasn't gone the free agent or trade route near as much as Carl. We have played our young guys which were already here when Pioli got here.

**Rausch** · 11-23-2011, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

I will say this, Pioli hasn't gone the free agent or trade route near as much as Carl. We have played our young guys which were already here when Pioli got here.

So you completely disagree with the whole point of this thread?

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SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	I notice this didn't get bumped last year, when Cassel was offensive player of the month, or after last season when the Chiefs won the division and Cassel went to the Pro Bowl. I am still a fan of the trade. I am still in favor of NOT drafting Sanchez. Now, do I want an upgrade over Cassel? Yes, please. Do I blame him for the Chiefs being 4-6? No. Cassel is what I thought he was. A hard worker that will do what the coaches ask and that can be successful when surrounded with talent. A second round pick for Cassel is still much better than what teams normally give up for a QB. Look at the Palmer trade. Look at the Kolb trade. Look at the AJ Feeley trade. I know there are others. Heck, look at the Trent Green trade. The Texans gave up far more for Schaub, who has not even won a division. The price was on par with what the Chiefs got. A servicable starting QB. __________________ A bad day at the gym is better than a good day on the Couch.
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doomy3 Supporter Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $3273539	The problem with 2009, IMO, is STILL not the Cassel trade. It is that we blew the pick we had on Tyson Jackson. If we choose Raji or someone else with value there instead, then the Cassel trade was still a good trade. If people are crucifying Pioli over something, it should be that, not that he didn't pick Mark Sanchez at #3 overall. That would have been a disaster as well. Let's see what happens when we have a chance at a true franchise QB, not someone like Sanchez. If Pioli doesn't pick him, then the Carl comparisons could make some sense.
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11-23-2011, 12:27 PM	#119
notorious Supporter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Who knows? Casino cash: $-824116	I will say this, Pioli hasn't gone the free agent or trade route near as much as Carl. We have played our young guys which were already here when Pioli got here.
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