What If The QBOTF Isn't There?

[bevischief]

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/1...here#storyjump

What If The QBOTF Isn't There?

1528290_f520_tiny by citadelchief on Nov 30, 2011 7:08 AM CST

From the FanPosts -Joel

As we begin to accept that the Kansas City Chiefs will probably miss the playoffs and will be drafting in the top 15 next year, there is a lot of talk about who the Chiefs should be taking...OK, we've already been talking about it for a couple months now. Obviously, the majority of Chiefs fans are looking at QB with the first pick, and rightfully so. Personally, I agree. I would love for KC to get Andrew Luck, Matt Barkley, or Robert Griffin III.

However, I am a plan for the worst and hope for the best type of guy.

Star-divide
Looking ahead at the 2012 NFL Draft, I see some very worrisome possibilities in the Chiefs drafting the QBOTF with the first pick. It is a strong QB class with plenty of potential stars, journeymen starters, and quality backups. However, we have had our fill of journeymen and backups...we want our star. So, that limits our options to Luck, Barkley, and Griffin.

So what's the problem? There are several:

1. Indianapolis - The Colts have all but wrapped up the 1st overall pick, and with an aging Peyton Manning coming off of an injured neck, they would have to be crazy to pass over Andrew Luck.

2. Miami - Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. That's what everyone needs to be thinking when it comes to Matt Moore. The Dolphins would be nuts to put their future in his hands. The Panthers tried that, and now have Cam Newton...so the Dolphins will get Matt Barkley. Hmm, maybe the Chiefs should sign Matt Moore so we can get our QBOTF?

3. Washington - John Beck or Rex Grossman? Yeah, let's face it, the Skins will be going QB early this year. The good news here is that Landry Jones is rated higher than RGIII on some boards...so maybe the Chiefs dodge a bullet with that one.

4. Seattle - That bullet we just dodged? Yeah, it turned around and got us. Seattle gave up a 3rd rd pick for Charlie Whitehurst so they wouldn't have to draft a QB. They signed Tavaris Jackson so they wouldn't have to draft a QB. I really don't see this happening a 3rd time. Griffin just got snagged.

5. Arizona - Kevin Kolb failed miserably. There was some life with John Skelton, but that quickly fell apart as well. The Cardinals may be looking at a new coach and a new QB to go with him. If any of those top 3 are available, I just can't see them passing on that opportunity.

6. Philadelphia - What?! That's right, you heard me. Don't think for a second that the Eagles won't pull the trigger if the opportunity is there. Mike Vick started out great for them, but then he has steadily declined, just like he did in Atlanta. Vince Young has played well enough that he can probably get himself a pretty good opportunity somewhere else.

7. New York - Don't get it twisted, Mark Sanchez is playing for his future right now. Rex Ryan pulling him off the 1st team for a couple practices wasn't about him losing his job to Mark Brunell this year, it was about him losing his job to a new guy next season. Sanchez isn't down and out yet, but if the Jets don't make the playoffs? Well, Sanchez might want to warm up his clipboard arm.

So there it is. My list of concerns. And this doesn't include the teams like Chicago, Denver, and New Orleans who will be in the market for backups and future projects.

Now, the Chiefs do have the option to trade up. The Jets did it for Sanchez and the Falcons did it for Jones...but are the Chiefs in the same place as either of those teams? I look at the roster, and it sure doesn't appear that way. I'm not against a trade up, but I can't say I'm thrilled about the idea.

[BigCatDaddy]

Trade up?

[kcpasco]

Originally Posted by suds79

I've been so focused on QB I'm not sure.

Justin Blackmon?

Trent Richardson is looking pretty good but RBs can always be found late.

Could you imagine Blackmon on this team. We would be so stacked at WR with no one to get them the ball.

[Extra Point]

Originally Posted by milkman

I like Matt Flynn, but really, what have actually seen?

A guy who was and is actually coached.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

You draft some anyway. There are more QB's out there than the top 2-3 talents in every draft. You need backups so that you don't run into the situation we've had for the last few years where you just have absolutely nothing to turn to and are signing guys off the street (Palko).

Stop spending 3 draft picks on an assortment of DE's and TE's every goddamn draft.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by suds79

I've been so focused on QB I'm not sure.

Justin Blackmon?

Trent Richardson is looking pretty good but RBs can always be found late.

I'm generally against first round RBs, but should we be out of the QB sweepstakes in the first round, and Richardson is there, I'd be hard pressed to pass on him.

I haven't seen the combination of size, power, speed and athleticism he possesses since Earl Campell.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by milkman

I'm generally against first round RBs, but should we be out of the QB sweepstakes in the first round, and Richardson is there, I'd be hard pressed to pass on him.

I haven't seen the combination of size, power, speed and athleticism he possesses since Earl Campell.

Adrian Peterson?

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Extra Point

A guy who was and is actually coached.

Good point.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Trade up?

100% agree with this logic. If there's a guy you believe is going to be great, you make a move.

The good news is that there are a lot of teams drafting high that won't be interested in a QB.

Carolina, Jacksonville, Minn, etc

Could be costly. But get the guy you want.

[WV]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

How many times, since 1990, has a superbowl been won by "some other teams backup QB"?

Steve Young and Brett Favre maybe?

I'm not disagreeing with you, it's just hard to overlook the history of the Chiefs drafting of QB's. I suppose it needs to start sometime though.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Adrian Peterson?

Campell was more powerful.

The guys I've seen, only Jim Brown was better than Earl Campbell.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by milkman

I'm generally against first round RBs, but should we be out of the QB sweepstakes in the first round, and Richardson is there, I'd be hard pressed to pass on him.

I haven't seen the combination of size, power, speed and athleticism he possesses since Earl Campell.

I'll still stand by you should draft your RBs late but I suppose I wouldn't cry over this move. The guy does have a ton of talent.

We know we'll need a RB in this draft at some point.

But still can't get around the QB issue. Eye on the prize IMO. We need to lose and/or trade up if there's a guy we like just out of our reach.

[Quesadilla Joe]

I don't think the Chiefs have the staff necessary to develop a QB. Zorn is overrated, Flacco is meh and Jason Campbell is shit.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by milkman

Campell was more powerful.

The guys I've seen, only Jim Brown was better than Earl Campbell.

You also have to figure in they were running over lineman weighing 250lbs at most. I doubt they would look so "powerful" in todays NFL or college game. They were just ahead of their time.

[Jenson71]

Honestly, we never gave Brodie Croyle the chance to succeed here. I'm not opposed to drafting a QB in the later rounds (no higher than 3-4), but if we don't, we should talk to Croyle.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by milkman

I'm generally against first round RBs, but should we be out of the QB sweepstakes in the first round, and Richardson is there, I'd be hard pressed to pass on him.

I haven't seen the combination of size, power, speed and athleticism he possesses since Earl Campell.

Adrian Peterson and Darren McFadden come to mind. But Richardson is definitely a player of the "right 53" mindset. I wouldn't be OVERLY upset about the pick, but it would seem like a bit of a waste.

Outside of Luck, we MUST make a move for RG3 in my mind. RG3 is, by all reports out of Baylor, the best PERSON and hardest worker on that team. He obviously is goal oriented and acheives his goals, given that he graduated high school a semester early, and finished his bachelor's in three years and is working through his masters.

He is terrifically clutch. He has that accurate deep-ball which will stretch the field for our running game. He has adequate pocket presence and throws on the run extremely well. He keeps his eyes downfield and works through progressions while on the move. If there is nothing there, he has the ability to make you pay with his legs.

Granted, he will be a 1-2 year project in that he will have to learn to identify blitzes, coverages and learn to change the play at the line of scrimmage. However, that is the only way Luck is better than Griffin in my mind.