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**bevischief** · 11-30-2011, 09:29 AM

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What If The QBOTF Isn't There?

1528290_f520_tiny by citadelchief on Nov 30, 2011 7:08 AM CST

From the FanPosts -Joel

As we begin to accept that the Kansas City Chiefs will probably miss the playoffs and will be drafting in the top 15 next year, there is a lot of talk about who the Chiefs should be taking...OK, we've already been talking about it for a couple months now. Obviously, the majority of Chiefs fans are looking at QB with the first pick, and rightfully so. Personally, I agree. I would love for KC to get Andrew Luck, Matt Barkley, or Robert Griffin III.

However, I am a plan for the worst and hope for the best type of guy.

Star-divide
Looking ahead at the 2012 NFL Draft, I see some very worrisome possibilities in the Chiefs drafting the QBOTF with the first pick. It is a strong QB class with plenty of potential stars, journeymen starters, and quality backups. However, we have had our fill of journeymen and backups...we want our star. So, that limits our options to Luck, Barkley, and Griffin.

So what's the problem? There are several:

1. Indianapolis - The Colts have all but wrapped up the 1st overall pick, and with an aging Peyton Manning coming off of an injured neck, they would have to be crazy to pass over Andrew Luck.

2. Miami - Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. That's what everyone needs to be thinking when it comes to Matt Moore. The Dolphins would be nuts to put their future in his hands. The Panthers tried that, and now have Cam Newton...so the Dolphins will get Matt Barkley. Hmm, maybe the Chiefs should sign Matt Moore so we can get our QBOTF?

3. Washington - John Beck or Rex Grossman? Yeah, let's face it, the Skins will be going QB early this year. The good news here is that Landry Jones is rated higher than RGIII on some boards...so maybe the Chiefs dodge a bullet with that one.

4. Seattle - That bullet we just dodged? Yeah, it turned around and got us. Seattle gave up a 3rd rd pick for Charlie Whitehurst so they wouldn't have to draft a QB. They signed Tavaris Jackson so they wouldn't have to draft a QB. I really don't see this happening a 3rd time. Griffin just got snagged.

5. Arizona - Kevin Kolb failed miserably. There was some life with John Skelton, but that quickly fell apart as well. The Cardinals may be looking at a new coach and a new QB to go with him. If any of those top 3 are available, I just can't see them passing on that opportunity.

6. Philadelphia - What?! That's right, you heard me. Don't think for a second that the Eagles won't pull the trigger if the opportunity is there. Mike Vick started out great for them, but then he has steadily declined, just like he did in Atlanta. Vince Young has played well enough that he can probably get himself a pretty good opportunity somewhere else.

7. New York - Don't get it twisted, Mark Sanchez is playing for his future right now. Rex Ryan pulling him off the 1st team for a couple practices wasn't about him losing his job to Mark Brunell this year, it was about him losing his job to a new guy next season. Sanchez isn't down and out yet, but if the Jets don't make the playoffs? Well, Sanchez might want to warm up his clipboard arm.

So there it is. My list of concerns. And this doesn't include the teams like Chicago, Denver, and New Orleans who will be in the market for backups and future projects.

Now, the Chiefs do have the option to trade up. The Jets did it for Sanchez and the Falcons did it for Jones...but are the Chiefs in the same place as either of those teams? I look at the roster, and it sure doesn't appear that way. I'm not against a trade up, but I can't say I'm thrilled about the idea.

SenselessChiefsFan · 11-30-2011, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I think it's funny how Chiefs fans want RG3 now that Tebow is tearing it up.

I can certainly see the similarities.

I mean both are black.

They are both right handed.

They both have great downfield accuracy.

They both run 4.5 in the 40.

They both have carried their teams due to a lack of elite talent.

Wait... that's just RG3.

Heck, Tim Tebow is white, left handed, inaccurate, runs a 4.7, and was a member of a very talented team.

About the only similarity is that RG3 will also be a first round pick, oh, and they both play QB...for now.

I am impressed with the Broncos for making it work with Tebow. It will be interesting to see how long they do. It will be interesting to see if he goes into next year as the starting QB.

I would compare RG3 to John Elway, moreso than Tim Tebow.

Frosty · 11-30-2011, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by eric007

You first punk

Do it, TC! Shoot him in the face first!

**RealSNR** · 11-30-2011, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I don't think the Chiefs have the staff necessary to develop a QB. Zorn is overrated, Flacco is meh and Jason Campbell is shit.

First of all, Zorn isn't overrated. Nobody in the league talks about him for him to be rated. Only Chiefs fans do.

Secondly, drafted QBs who go to teams without good coaching staffs do well all the time.

Okie_Apparition · 11-30-2011, 12:57 PM

When Elway tries to trade up for a top notch QB in the draft. Tebow may net him 3rd round value. If McDouchebag will push for him

Frankie · 11-30-2011, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

I can certainly see the similarities.

I mean both are black.

They are both right handed.

They both have great downfield accuracy.

They both run 4.5 in the 40.

They both have carried their teams due to a lack of elite talent.

Wait... that's just RG3.

Heck, Tim Tebow is white, left handed, inaccurate, runs a 4.7, and was a member of a very talented team.

About the only similarity is that RG3 will also be a first round pick, oh, and they both play QB...for now.

I am impressed with the Broncos for making it work with Tebow. It will be interesting to see how long they do. It will be interesting to see if he goes into next year as the starting QB.

I would compare RG3 to John Elway, moreso than Tim Tebow.

Your sarcasm sir is misplaced. There indeed are a lot more similarities. They both have two eyes, two eyebrows, one nose, one mouth, two arms and two legs. According to the rumors, Tebow also has a dick though that may just be a mere rumor.

**RealSNR** · 11-30-2011, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I think it's funny how Chiefs fans want RG3 now that Tebow is tearing it up.

I'm now convinced your entire act is trollery.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 11-30-2011, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

I'm now convinced your entire act is trollery.

I've always believed he is a puppet with a good sense of humor.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-30-2011, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I like Flynn, what little we've seen, and if you gave me a choice between him, Cassel and Orton, I'd take Flynn, no questions asked, even without Clements.

But if you tell me I have a choice between Flynn and a first round QB, well that isn't even a close choice.

Flynn was a 7th round pick, wasn't he?

There's a reason for that.

Total agreement.

I only mentioned Flynn because trading for backups seems to be Pioli's MO.

jd1020 · 11-30-2011, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Total agreement.

I only mentioned Flynn because trading for backups seems to be Pioli's MO.

Flynn is a FA after this season.

Just FYI.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-30-2011, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Rick

Thank you! Spot on. Glad someone finally said this.

I don't understand all of the Flynn love, and I'm even living in the heart of Packer territory. Not saying he's bad, but he played (very well, I'll admit) in one game. There just isn't enough of a sample size to determine anything with him at this point.

Again, I'm open to Flynn if and only if we have no intentions of actually drafting our own guy - and I'll admit, his appeal is as much about his play as it is about him learning under the best QB coach in the NFL and behind the best QB in the NFL.

58kcfan89 · 11-30-2011, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Again, I'm open to Flynn if and only if we have no intentions of actually drafting our own guy - and I'll admit, his appeal is as much about his play as it is about him learning under the best QB coach in the NFL and behind the best QB in the NFL.

Not to mention having 10 awesome players around him...

I wouldn't mind signing Flynn as a backup or to start at the beginning of next year, but we obviously need to draft our own ****ing QB. And not in the 6th damn round, either.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-30-2011, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I think it's funny how Chiefs fans want RG3 now that Tebow is tearing it up.

yeah, they are the exact same QB...

4th and Long · 11-30-2011, 02:03 PM

If "ifs and buts" were candies and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas.

I am so sick and tired of all these "what if" threads.

whoman69 · 11-30-2011, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

Your sarcasm sir is misplaced. There indeed are a lot more similarities. They both have two eyes, two eyebrows, one nose, one mouth, two arms and two legs. According to the rumors, Tebow also has a dick though that may just be a mere rumor.

Tebow has a unibrow. Get your facts straight.

tredadda · 11-30-2011, 05:35 PM

I know the FO would be ecstatic if the QBOTF is not there. That relieves them of the pressure of doing what they do not want to do and that is draft a 1st round QB. They can then go into the season with Cassel, Orton, and Stanzi and "hope" one of them is successful enough to quiet the fanbase.

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bevischief .... Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somewhere Kansas Casino cash: $7729352 VARSITY	What If The QBOTF Isn't There? http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/1...here#storyjump What If The QBOTF Isn't There? 1528290_f520_tiny by citadelchief on Nov 30, 2011 7:08 AM CST From the FanPosts -Joel As we begin to accept that the Kansas City Chiefs will probably miss the playoffs and will be drafting in the top 15 next year, there is a lot of talk about who the Chiefs should be taking...OK, we've already been talking about it for a couple months now. Obviously, the majority of Chiefs fans are looking at QB with the first pick, and rightfully so. Personally, I agree. I would love for KC to get Andrew Luck, Matt Barkley, or Robert Griffin III. However, I am a plan for the worst and hope for the best type of guy. Star-divide Looking ahead at the 2012 NFL Draft, I see some very worrisome possibilities in the Chiefs drafting the QBOTF with the first pick. It is a strong QB class with plenty of potential stars, journeymen starters, and quality backups. However, we have had our fill of journeymen and backups...we want our star. So, that limits our options to Luck, Barkley, and Griffin. So what's the problem? There are several: 1. Indianapolis - The Colts have all but wrapped up the 1st overall pick, and with an aging Peyton Manning coming off of an injured neck, they would have to be crazy to pass over Andrew Luck. 2. Miami - Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. That's what everyone needs to be thinking when it comes to Matt Moore. The Dolphins would be nuts to put their future in his hands. The Panthers tried that, and now have Cam Newton...so the Dolphins will get Matt Barkley. Hmm, maybe the Chiefs should sign Matt Moore so we can get our QBOTF? 3. Washington - John Beck or Rex Grossman? Yeah, let's face it, the Skins will be going QB early this year. The good news here is that Landry Jones is rated higher than RGIII on some boards...so maybe the Chiefs dodge a bullet with that one. 4. Seattle - That bullet we just dodged? Yeah, it turned around and got us. Seattle gave up a 3rd rd pick for Charlie Whitehurst so they wouldn't have to draft a QB. They signed Tavaris Jackson so they wouldn't have to draft a QB. I really don't see this happening a 3rd time. Griffin just got snagged. 5. Arizona - Kevin Kolb failed miserably. There was some life with John Skelton, but that quickly fell apart as well. The Cardinals may be looking at a new coach and a new QB to go with him. If any of those top 3 are available, I just can't see them passing on that opportunity. 6. Philadelphia - What?! That's right, you heard me. Don't think for a second that the Eagles won't pull the trigger if the opportunity is there. Mike Vick started out great for them, but then he has steadily declined, just like he did in Atlanta. Vince Young has played well enough that he can probably get himself a pretty good opportunity somewhere else. 7. New York - Don't get it twisted, Mark Sanchez is playing for his future right now. Rex Ryan pulling him off the 1st team for a couple practices wasn't about him losing his job to Mark Brunell this year, it was about him losing his job to a new guy next season. Sanchez isn't down and out yet, but if the Jets don't make the playoffs? Well, Sanchez might want to warm up his clipboard arm. So there it is. My list of concerns. And this doesn't include the teams like Chicago, Denver, and New Orleans who will be in the market for backups and future projects. Now, the Chiefs do have the option to trade up. The Jets did it for Sanchez and the Falcons did it for Jones...but are the Chiefs in the same place as either of those teams? I look at the roster, and it sure doesn't appear that way. I'm not against a trade up, but I can't say I'm thrilled about the idea.
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tredadda Three-Pat Join Date: May 2011 Location: Colorado Springs Casino cash: $-1994947	I know the FO would be ecstatic if the QBOTF is not there. That relieves them of the pressure of doing what they do not want to do and that is draft a 1st round QB. They can then go into the season with Cassel, Orton, and Stanzi and "hope" one of them is successful enough to quiet the fanbase.
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