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**bevischief** · 11-30-2011, 09:29 AM

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What If The QBOTF Isn't There?

1528290_f520_tiny by citadelchief on Nov 30, 2011 7:08 AM CST

From the FanPosts -Joel

As we begin to accept that the Kansas City Chiefs will probably miss the playoffs and will be drafting in the top 15 next year, there is a lot of talk about who the Chiefs should be taking...OK, we've already been talking about it for a couple months now. Obviously, the majority of Chiefs fans are looking at QB with the first pick, and rightfully so. Personally, I agree. I would love for KC to get Andrew Luck, Matt Barkley, or Robert Griffin III.

However, I am a plan for the worst and hope for the best type of guy.

Star-divide
Looking ahead at the 2012 NFL Draft, I see some very worrisome possibilities in the Chiefs drafting the QBOTF with the first pick. It is a strong QB class with plenty of potential stars, journeymen starters, and quality backups. However, we have had our fill of journeymen and backups...we want our star. So, that limits our options to Luck, Barkley, and Griffin.

So what's the problem? There are several:

1. Indianapolis - The Colts have all but wrapped up the 1st overall pick, and with an aging Peyton Manning coming off of an injured neck, they would have to be crazy to pass over Andrew Luck.

2. Miami - Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. That's what everyone needs to be thinking when it comes to Matt Moore. The Dolphins would be nuts to put their future in his hands. The Panthers tried that, and now have Cam Newton...so the Dolphins will get Matt Barkley. Hmm, maybe the Chiefs should sign Matt Moore so we can get our QBOTF?

3. Washington - John Beck or Rex Grossman? Yeah, let's face it, the Skins will be going QB early this year. The good news here is that Landry Jones is rated higher than RGIII on some boards...so maybe the Chiefs dodge a bullet with that one.

4. Seattle - That bullet we just dodged? Yeah, it turned around and got us. Seattle gave up a 3rd rd pick for Charlie Whitehurst so they wouldn't have to draft a QB. They signed Tavaris Jackson so they wouldn't have to draft a QB. I really don't see this happening a 3rd time. Griffin just got snagged.

5. Arizona - Kevin Kolb failed miserably. There was some life with John Skelton, but that quickly fell apart as well. The Cardinals may be looking at a new coach and a new QB to go with him. If any of those top 3 are available, I just can't see them passing on that opportunity.

6. Philadelphia - What?! That's right, you heard me. Don't think for a second that the Eagles won't pull the trigger if the opportunity is there. Mike Vick started out great for them, but then he has steadily declined, just like he did in Atlanta. Vince Young has played well enough that he can probably get himself a pretty good opportunity somewhere else.

7. New York - Don't get it twisted, Mark Sanchez is playing for his future right now. Rex Ryan pulling him off the 1st team for a couple practices wasn't about him losing his job to Mark Brunell this year, it was about him losing his job to a new guy next season. Sanchez isn't down and out yet, but if the Jets don't make the playoffs? Well, Sanchez might want to warm up his clipboard arm.

So there it is. My list of concerns. And this doesn't include the teams like Chicago, Denver, and New Orleans who will be in the market for backups and future projects.

Now, the Chiefs do have the option to trade up. The Jets did it for Sanchez and the Falcons did it for Jones...but are the Chiefs in the same place as either of those teams? I look at the roster, and it sure doesn't appear that way. I'm not against a trade up, but I can't say I'm thrilled about the idea.

Frankie · 12-01-2011, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

What other 3 spots you thinking? RT, NT and ....

DE

NJChiefsFan · 12-01-2011, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

What other 3 spots you thinking? RT, NT and ....

Well I guess its really just a focus on 2 if Houston keeps improving. There are questions with our front 7 but at the same time they are good enough if Houston/Hali can get pressure and our Offense can control the ball. Houston does need to improve though because the teams that focus on doubling Hali like Miami have had great success. The last two games the pressure has looked a lot better.

O.city · 12-01-2011, 10:50 PM

We have attacked better the last two games.

Don't need DE's especially with our scheme. We probably need depth there but Dorsey and Jackson are good players.

NJChiefsFan · 12-01-2011, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

We have attacked better the last two games.

Don't need DE's especially with our scheme. We probably need depth there but Dorsey and Jackson are good players.

Jackson has gotten much better, especially against the run. I would prefer to get a vet NT to fill out that front 7 but you can't force it.

O.city · 12-01-2011, 10:57 PM

Gordon has played pretty well at NT. IF big IF Powe came along it would be great. there are some really good NT prospects in this eyras draft as well.

NJChiefsFan · 12-01-2011, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Gordon has played pretty well at NT. IF big IF Powe came along it would be great. there are some really good NT prospects in this eyras draft as well.

He still hasn't dressed for a game has he? If they let Mims play RT for a game or two and he looked nasty it would be an awesome thing as well. Doubt they give him the chance, let alone him being ready.

O.city · 12-01-2011, 10:59 PM

POwe played in NE.

I really hope MIms works out. He's my next door neighbor and he's a really cool dude. Just talked to him yesterday and congratulated him on the signing.

NJChiefsFan · 12-01-2011, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

POwe played in NE.

I really hope MIms works out. He's my next door neighbor and he's a really cool dude. Just talked to him yesterday and congratulated him on the signing.

You should try a swim move to get by him in the hallway and see how he handles it.

I didn't even see Powe against NE. Guess I was too busy getting mocked by my friend who is a Pats fan. I usually watch the game multiple times with the Directv shortcuts but its hard to do that with this team right now.

O.city · 12-01-2011, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

You should try a swim move to get by him in the hallway and see how he handles it.

I didn't even see Powe against NE. Guess I was too busy getting mocked by my friend who is a Pats fan. I usually watch the game multiple times with the Directv shortcuts but its hard to do that with this team right now.

Yeah. He played alright dunno how many snaps tho.

We took David some cookies a month or so ago and talked to him for a while. He's a nice guy. Justin Houston was here two weeks ago. Talked to him for a little while in the driveway. Pretty cool.

Anyway, it would be pretty awesome if a practice squad unsigned free agent worked out for us.

Frankie · 12-01-2011, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

We have attacked better the last two games.

Don't need DE's especially with our scheme. We probably need depth there but Dorsey and Jackson are good players.

I know this is 3-4, but when is the last time you saw them in the backfield? I personally think Dorsey will be traded in the off season.

evolve27 · 12-02-2011, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

I know this is 3-4, but when is the last time you saw them in the backfield? I personally think Dorsey will be traded in the off season.

Package Dorsey to move up and get our QB, Pioli.

Nightfyre · 12-02-2011, 01:35 AM

Anyone care to speculate on Dorsey's worth?

Chiefnj2 · 12-02-2011, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Anyone care to speculate on Dorsey's worth?

A 4th - 5th round pick.

ILChief · 12-02-2011, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

I know this is 3-4, but when is the last time you saw them in the backfield? I personally think Dorsey will be traded in the off season.

Jackson has actually had a pretty good year. Nowhere near good enough to justify where we picked him, but for a 3-4 end he hasn't been bad

htismaqe · 12-02-2011, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

I know this is 3-4, but when is the last time you saw them in the backfield? I personally think Dorsey will be traded in the off season.

You're not going to see them in the backfield. Get used to it.

Especially when Kelly Gregg is so bad that they're double-teaming TYSON JACKSON.

There was one play where I saw them double BOTH ends and block Gregg with the RB...

So much fail...can't bear it...

11-30-2011, 09:29 AM
bevischief .... Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somewhere Kansas Casino cash: $7729352 VARSITY	What If The QBOTF Isn't There? http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/1...here#storyjump What If The QBOTF Isn't There? 1528290_f520_tiny by citadelchief on Nov 30, 2011 7:08 AM CST From the FanPosts -Joel As we begin to accept that the Kansas City Chiefs will probably miss the playoffs and will be drafting in the top 15 next year, there is a lot of talk about who the Chiefs should be taking...OK, we've already been talking about it for a couple months now. Obviously, the majority of Chiefs fans are looking at QB with the first pick, and rightfully so. Personally, I agree. I would love for KC to get Andrew Luck, Matt Barkley, or Robert Griffin III. However, I am a plan for the worst and hope for the best type of guy. Star-divide Looking ahead at the 2012 NFL Draft, I see some very worrisome possibilities in the Chiefs drafting the QBOTF with the first pick. It is a strong QB class with plenty of potential stars, journeymen starters, and quality backups. However, we have had our fill of journeymen and backups...we want our star. So, that limits our options to Luck, Barkley, and Griffin. So what's the problem? There are several: 1. Indianapolis - The Colts have all but wrapped up the 1st overall pick, and with an aging Peyton Manning coming off of an injured neck, they would have to be crazy to pass over Andrew Luck. 2. Miami - Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. That's what everyone needs to be thinking when it comes to Matt Moore. The Dolphins would be nuts to put their future in his hands. The Panthers tried that, and now have Cam Newton...so the Dolphins will get Matt Barkley. Hmm, maybe the Chiefs should sign Matt Moore so we can get our QBOTF? 3. Washington - John Beck or Rex Grossman? Yeah, let's face it, the Skins will be going QB early this year. The good news here is that Landry Jones is rated higher than RGIII on some boards...so maybe the Chiefs dodge a bullet with that one. 4. Seattle - That bullet we just dodged? Yeah, it turned around and got us. Seattle gave up a 3rd rd pick for Charlie Whitehurst so they wouldn't have to draft a QB. They signed Tavaris Jackson so they wouldn't have to draft a QB. I really don't see this happening a 3rd time. Griffin just got snagged. 5. Arizona - Kevin Kolb failed miserably. There was some life with John Skelton, but that quickly fell apart as well. The Cardinals may be looking at a new coach and a new QB to go with him. If any of those top 3 are available, I just can't see them passing on that opportunity. 6. Philadelphia - What?! That's right, you heard me. Don't think for a second that the Eagles won't pull the trigger if the opportunity is there. Mike Vick started out great for them, but then he has steadily declined, just like he did in Atlanta. Vince Young has played well enough that he can probably get himself a pretty good opportunity somewhere else. 7. New York - Don't get it twisted, Mark Sanchez is playing for his future right now. Rex Ryan pulling him off the 1st team for a couple practices wasn't about him losing his job to Mark Brunell this year, it was about him losing his job to a new guy next season. Sanchez isn't down and out yet, but if the Jets don't make the playoffs? Well, Sanchez might want to warm up his clipboard arm. So there it is. My list of concerns. And this doesn't include the teams like Chicago, Denver, and New Orleans who will be in the market for backups and future projects. Now, the Chiefs do have the option to trade up. The Jets did it for Sanchez and the Falcons did it for Jones...but are the Chiefs in the same place as either of those teams? I look at the roster, and it sure doesn't appear that way. I'm not against a trade up, but I can't say I'm thrilled about the idea.
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