Chiefs Now the real truth is coming out - Page 5

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12:13 PM

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Todd Haley was never 100-percent on Tyson Jackson pick. He wanted best player available, not a system D-end. & he wasn't good at hiding it.

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On the Matt Cassel issues, Weis didn't think he could cut it. He argued with Haley over Cassel's development.

**DeezNutz** · 12-12-2011, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

Not really, given that there was no other option. Haley does come off as rather childish though that he was resentful that Weis got the credit. This will be entertaining, and gives me hope we may not be stuck with McDaniels + Cassel.

I'm speaking only about the irony of the #1 reason why many try to absolve Haley.

Shitty coach was fired. Dog bites man.

Chiefnj2 · 12-12-2011, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Almost as rich as the fact the people continue to insist that Weis was the reason Cassel got so much "better" in 2010, despite this nugget...

What happened to Cassel's development in 2009 and 2011 if it was all Haley??

**The Bad Guy** · 12-12-2011, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I don't believe a thing Charles Robinson is saying.

I don't know why you wouldn't given his track record.

**The Bad Guy** · 12-12-2011, 12:22 PM

Cassel's development is tied to one thing:

A weak schedule.

DJ's left nut · 12-12-2011, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I don't believe a thing Charles Robinson is saying.

So the guy that broke the Cam Newton story, the Ohio State saga as well as the Miami booster bombshell, is going to risk his reputation by skewering Todd Haley?

Get real.

This guy is way too high up in the investigative journalism pecking order to risk his reputation on a couple of throwaway shots at a coach he has no ties to.

Robinson's not a bomb-thrower; he's a legitimately connected guy. If he says it, you'd do well to believe it.

Okie_Apparition · 12-12-2011, 12:24 PM

Cassel was Pioli giving Haley enough rope to hang himsel
~reaching for release

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-12-2011, 12:24 PM

@CharlesRobinson Charles Robinson
Both Haley & Pioli have reps for wearing on those who work for/with them. Joining them was like storing matches w/ dynamite. Inevitable.

Chiefnj2 · 12-12-2011, 12:24 PM

Who in the Chiefs PR department is feeding this crap to Robinson?

"Hmm, some fans think Haley got a raw deal. I know! Let's start rumors that it was Haley who wanted Cassel from day 1 and stuck with him. That'll increase ticket sales 7%!!"

ChiefPressure · 12-12-2011, 12:24 PM

Pioli brought Cassel over and gave him a shitload of money before he played a single down. Matt Cassel was Piol's choice plain and simple.

Tyson Jackson was just another prime example of a Pioli pick.

Haley is just a scapegoat in this trainwreck.

**DaKCMan AP** · 12-12-2011, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I don't know why you wouldn't given his track record.

Because he goes against the grain no matter what's being discussed. It's his M.O.

Chiefnj2 · 12-12-2011, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

So the guy that broke the Cam Newton story, the Ohio State saga as well as the Miami booster bombshell, is going to risk his reputation by skewering Todd Haley?

Get real.

This guy is way too high up in the investigative journalism pecking order to risk his reputation on a couple of throwaway shots at a coach he has no ties to.

Robinson's not a bomb-thrower; he's a legitimately connected guy. If he says it, you'd do well to believe it.

Where was all his KC info the last 3 years?

**HemiEd** · 12-12-2011, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by chop

I'm sure Haley probably wasn't thrilled about having his starting QB selected before he started the HC job.

He signed on with handcuffs and no chance to succeed.

**Reaper16** · 12-12-2011, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

So the guy that broke the Cam Newton story, as well as the Miami bombshell, is going to risk his reputation by skewering Todd Haley?

Get real.

This guy is way too high up in the investigative journalism pecking order to risk his reputation on a couple of throwaway shots at a coach he has no ties to.

Robinson's not a bomb-thrower; he's a legitimately connected guy. If he says it, you'd do well to believe it.

Exactly. Dude is legit, and we'd do well to respect the info that he's Tweeting out right now.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-12-2011, 12:24 PM

@CharlesRobinson Charles Robinson
Bottom line, both Haley and Pioli have tremendous egos. They were going to end up resenting each other and struggling over credit/blame.

Did someone say ego? /Whitlock

O.city · 12-12-2011, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Cassel's development is tied to one thing:

A weak schedule.

Boom right there it is.

I'll give Pioli the benefit of having to bring him back this year. This was the year to determine if he was the guy or not.

In the end alot of decisions are made on whether or not they will put people in the stands. We on CP knew he shouldn't be brought back, but getting rid of a pro bowl qb the year after isn't a great way to bring in fans.

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