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Old 12-12-2011, 12:00 PM  
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Todd Haley was never 100-percent on Tyson Jackson pick. He wanted best player available, not a system D-end. & he wasn't good at hiding it.


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On the Matt Cassel issues, Weis didn't think he could cut it. He argued with Haley over Cassel's development.
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:25 PM   #76
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Almost as rich as the fact the people continue to insist that Weis was the reason Cassel got so much "better" in 2010, despite this nugget...
That just further proves what a little boy Haley really was. Oh no, Charlie's getting the credit!!!
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:26 PM   #77
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So... if Haley was the one behind Cassel... then Pioli is an idiot for not firing Haley sooner.
Hell yeah. I was a borderline Haley supporter, but if this is true, Haley should have been gone a long time ago.
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:26 PM   #78
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Bottom line, both Haley and Pioli have tremendous egos. They were going to end up resenting each other and struggling over credit/blame.


Did someone say ego? /Whitlock
Yeah Whitlock with some ground breaking journalism here...



Why people keep qouting him as a source is beyond stupid... Every ****ing GM and HC in the league have an ego...

You dont get to the top of your profession without an EGO of some sort.

JFC people, stop licking the ballsack of Whitlock...
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:27 PM   #79
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Local take that Weis was in Cassel's corner and Haley wasn't is completely false. That's a myth perpetuated to undercut Haley at the end.
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:27 PM   #80
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This is too funny. All the Haley supporters said Cassel was forced on him, etc. Now this "reporter" is claiming Haley supported Cassel to his subordinates, as he should.
fixed it for you
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:27 PM   #81
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isn't robinson the one who broke the miami scandal?
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:28 PM   #82
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The only guy in Cassel's corner is Pioli.

Haley and Weis were just trying to do their job.
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:28 PM   #83
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So if that's true, then does that mean Haley inserted Muir as OC so that he could get most of the offensive credit? Cause I 100% don't get what that was.

I also wonder if we sat on all that cap room because of this situation.

Wonder if the looming lockout was another reason Haley survived...
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:28 PM   #84
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Local take that Weis was in Cassel's corner and Haley wasn't is completely false. That's a myth perpetuated to undercut Haley at the end.


No matter who at fault, this is like an episode of "As the world turns"
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:29 PM   #85
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Of course, it's possible that Pioli is the one leaking this info to Charles Robinson.
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:29 PM   #86
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That just further proves what a little boy Haley really was. Oh no, Charlie's getting the credit!!!
Yeah, Haley doesn't look good in that sense. But Weis looks worse washing his hands of the QB that the godfather gave them. WTF? Unless Cassel was negotiable with Pioli, Weis' refusal to work with Cassel seems like a reason to immediately fire the guy. JFC, this whole thing was MORE dysfunctional than even the worst rumors suggested.
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:29 PM   #87
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Of course, it's possible that Pioli is the one leaking this info to Charles Robinson.
I have no doubt.
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:30 PM   #88
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That just further proves what a little boy Haley really was. Oh no, Charlie's getting the credit!!!
Actually, it proves that Haley being a crybaby was inconsequential in the grand scheme of things because the ENTIRE ORGANIZATION is inept, top to bottom.
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:30 PM   #89
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Where was all his KC info the last 3 years?
So he should just start lobbing shit out there with no legitimate 'news' to connect it to? Further, why would sources bring it to him at that point? There was no story yet. Should Robinson have just gone out digging for dirt on a coach that was actually winning games? If anything, that's the mark of a guy that's going to give you a lot of crap along the way.

If you don't believe the guy, it's only because you don't like what he's saying. Go through his resume - there has never been a reason to doubt the veracity of Robinson's sources.

Everyone has a first stumble, but until I see it, I'm going to give his words a lot of weight. Like I said - he's dealt with far bigger issues than Todd Haley and has absolutely nothing to gain by manufacturing information here.
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:31 PM   #90
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Local take that Weis was in Cassel's corner and Haley wasn't is completely false. That's a myth perpetuated to undercut Haley at the end.
Why would that undercut Haley? Sounds like a pro, not a con...
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