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Old 12-12-2011, 12:00 PM  
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Now the real truth is coming out
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Todd Haley was never 100-percent on Tyson Jackson pick. He wanted best player available, not a system D-end. & he wasn't good at hiding it.


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On the Matt Cassel issues, Weis didn't think he could cut it. He argued with Haley over Cassel's development.
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:24 PM   #181
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Any coincidence Haley is fired within a week of Weis getting hired by Kansas? Could Pioli be making a move for Weis before he gets started there?
That may be the most desperate thing I've heard from a Chiefs fan.
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:25 PM   #182
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Demand...a proven winner.


Why? What is so good about his history? He either misses the playoffs or gets booted in the first round every year. 1 super bowl appearance that he lost...
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:26 PM   #183
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That may be the most desperate thing I've heard from a Chiefs fan.
you certainly don't think I want him here do you?
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:29 PM   #184
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Care to share, or are you just going to keep vaguely telling us about how good he is?


I've been sharing. Check my last couple of posts.
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:29 PM   #185
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When Pioli traded for Matt Cassel, I deferred to his supposed insider knowledge of Cassel, but commented that I thought because of this insider knowledge, he was effectively betting his job on the trade, because he would look like a joke if Cassel didn't pan out...

Well, all this talk about whether Haley sucks or not....the fact of the matter is that Pioli in fact did fail in his gamble with Cassel. This press conference is about the termination of Todd Haley's contract, but really should be about the fact that we have wasted 3 years because of Pioli's bad bet and now must start over.
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:29 PM   #186
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you certainly don't think I want him here do you?
The biggest upside is it sounds like he didn't like Cassel so he would be shown the door.

After reading all this it just solidifies my belief Haley kept playing Palko because he was trying to get fired.
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:30 PM   #187
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What happened to Cassel's development in 2009 and 2011 if it was all Haley??
Teams they played.
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:31 PM   #188
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Why? What is so good about his history? He either misses the playoffs or gets booted in the first round every year. 1 super bowl appearance that he lost...
I see no other proven winners.
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:31 PM   #189
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Any coincidence Haley is fired within a week of Weis getting hired by Kansas? Could Pioli be making a move for Weis before he gets started there?
Doubtful, but I don't discount that Weis had a sense that Haley would be getting fired soon, which makes being in the same vicinity as the Chiefs bearable to him...
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:33 PM   #190
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:34 PM   #191
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:34 PM   #192
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:36 PM   #193
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He's worth a shot. Top caliber draft prospect sitting under Tom Brady with some NFL experience at hand.

Sounds a lot more promising than spending a 1st on Barkley or Landry Jones.

That said, I'd rather have RG3 or Peyton Manning.
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:36 PM   #194
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It's called leadership.

It is one thing to voice your disagreement, but once the decision is made, it is made.

Acting like a spoiled brat doesn't help.
One man's "spoiled brat" is another man's "leader." It's all in the perception, my friend.

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Well we are gonna find out pretty soon if Pioli is tied to Cassel. Maybe Pioli listened to Weis while he was here and will move on and flush the turd.
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Not really, given that there was no other option. Haley does come off as rather childish though that he was resentful that Weis got the credit. This will be entertaining, and gives me hope we may not be stuck with McDaniels + Cassel.

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Pioli brought Cassel over and gave him a shitload of money before he played a single down. Matt Cassel was Piol's choice plain and simple.

Tyson Jackson was just another prime example of a Pioli pick.

Haley is just a scapegoat in this trainwreck.
Nailed it on all counts.
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