Chiefs Now the real truth is coming out - Page 26

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12:13 PM

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Todd Haley was never 100-percent on Tyson Jackson pick. He wanted best player available, not a system D-end. & he wasn't good at hiding it.

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On the Matt Cassel issues, Weis didn't think he could cut it. He argued with Haley over Cassel's development.

FAX · 12-12-2011, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Does anyone for a second really think Haley's attire, beard, or hiphop fandom had anything to do with his fate.

Seems like so much snarky bullshit

As a student of popular culture and the media, I'd be interested in how you interpreted the press conference, Mr. Baby Lee.

FAX

mrbiggz · 12-12-2011, 03:16 PM

Weis not believing in Cassel confirms my thoughts last year while watching the games when it was obvious that Cassel was being babied by the play calling. Haley's thought process may have been that we have to see what we have in him otherwise he himself would be let go.

Given all the turmoil the team has went through this season I'm more mad at Pioli than Haley. There was never any reason to give that huge contract that early to Cassel. They could have done more to strengthen the offensive line also. signing Lilja was a mistake, letting Brian waters go was a mistake. The cupboards are bare besides some of the guys that were left behind from Herm era. Not to mention all the injuries.

I would have liked to see Haley call the offense permanently and develop a QB.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-12-2011, 03:17 PM

Silver: No idea why Clark Hunt isn't more aggressive in acquiring talent. Must assume he likes sitting on tens of millions of dollars after stadium renovations.

LOCOChief · 12-12-2011, 03:19 PM

I like Haley, I have from day 1, more than any coach we've had in the last 35+ years.

We're stuck with pioli and his puppet whomever that will be.

Personally I can't take much more of this.

O.city · 12-12-2011, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Silver: No idea why Clark Hunt isn't more aggressive in acquiring talent. Must assume he likes sitting on tens of millions of dollars after stadium renovations.

I think our best hope at getting a qb in the draft early is for Hunt to step in and make a business decision.

Not likely but possible.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-12-2011, 03:22 PM

Wright ripping Kornacki for her "OH, WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN?" question.

LOCOChief · 12-12-2011, 03:24 PM

If the impression that we're given about Pioli is true then I really hope Clark steps in and relinquishes some control, but Clark didn't hire the guy less than 3 years ago to have to jump in and do that.

Chiefnj2 · 12-12-2011, 03:24 PM

Basically, every single decision Pioli made in 2009 has been an complete and utter failure.

htismaqe · 12-12-2011, 03:25 PM

I honestly don't know how much longer I can subject myself to this. It's pretty obvious that the REAL problem isn't Todd Haley...

htismaqe · 12-12-2011, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Basically, every single decision Pioli made in 2009 has been an complete and utter failure.

Yep.

ChiefsCountry · 12-12-2011, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Basically, every single decision Pioli made in 2009 has been an complete and utter failure.

They were failures when he did them in 2009.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-12-2011, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I honestly don't know how much longer I can subject myself to this. It's pretty obvious that the REAL problem isn't Todd Haley...

What?

Are you implying that the "Executive of the Decade" is to blame?

O.city · 12-12-2011, 03:27 PM

And the one 2009 decision we all thought was the worst at the time has turned out to probably be the best.

When Tyson Jackson is the best decision of the offseason. ......Well you get the point.

Dayze · 12-12-2011, 03:28 PM

I remember the T-Jax pick. My brother called it about 30 seconds before they announced it. I laughed and was like "who the F is Tyson Jackson"...

I literally sat there like "what just happened". Sort of like i did when we drafted LJ.

ToxSocks · 12-12-2011, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

And the one 2009 decision we all thought was the worst at the time has turned out to probably be the best.

When Tyson Jackson is the best decision of the offseason. ......Well you get the point.

Actually.....we got Ryan Succop. He belongs in the Chiefs 2009 Class HOF.

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mrbiggz Starter Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: i travel Casino cash: $-171667	Weis not believing in Cassel confirms my thoughts last year while watching the games when it was obvious that Cassel was being babied by the play calling. Haley's thought process may have been that we have to see what we have in him otherwise he himself would be let go. Given all the turmoil the team has went through this season I'm more mad at Pioli than Haley. There was never any reason to give that huge contract that early to Cassel. They could have done more to strengthen the offensive line also. signing Lilja was a mistake, letting Brian waters go was a mistake. The cupboards are bare besides some of the guys that were left behind from Herm era. Not to mention all the injuries. I would have liked to see Haley call the offense permanently and develop a QB.
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LOCOChief True Chiefs Fan Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bull Bay Casino cash: $6605791	I like Haley, I have from day 1, more than any coach we've had in the last 35+ years. We're stuck with pioli and his puppet whomever that will be. Personally I can't take much more of this.
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LOCOChief True Chiefs Fan Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bull Bay Casino cash: $6605791	If the impression that we're given about Pioli is true then I really hope Clark steps in and relinquishes some control, but Clark didn't hire the guy less than 3 years ago to have to jump in and do that.
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Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $1759358	I remember the T-Jax pick. My brother called it about 30 seconds before they announced it. I laughed and was like "who the F is Tyson Jackson"... I literally sat there like "what just happened". Sort of like i did when we drafted LJ.
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