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Old 12-12-2011, 12:00 PM  
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Now the real truth is coming out
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Todd Haley was never 100-percent on Tyson Jackson pick. He wanted best player available, not a system D-end. & he wasn't good at hiding it.


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On the Matt Cassel issues, Weis didn't think he could cut it. He argued with Haley over Cassel's development.
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Old 12-12-2011, 03:59 PM   #421
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Chief country is dead on right how many times have we heard that if Matt is surrounded by the right players he will be effective.


Hmm I allways thought great QBs make the players around him better not the other way around.
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Old 12-12-2011, 03:59 PM   #422
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The problem is Pioli is blind to Cassel. Every decision that has ****ed this team from coaching to drafting, has been because of Matt Cassel.
No the problem is Clark Hunt and his absentee ownership. Until people wake up and realize that the team will continue to suck shit. The only thing Clark and the Hunt family care about is making money so hit him where it hurts.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:00 PM   #423
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How embarrassing must it be around the league to see this organization so tied up in knots over the good graces of ****ing Matt Cassel?
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:00 PM   #424
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Chief country is dead on right how many times have we heard that if Matt is surrounded by the right players he will be effective.


Hmm I allways thought great QBs make the players around him better not the other way around.
Way to flip flop.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:01 PM   #425
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There is no Patriots Way. There is no Green Bay way. There is no Steeler Way.

The "way" is to draft well, make good free agent decisions and surround them all with a HOF quarterback. Win championships.

Did the Steeler Way work when Neil O'Donnell was back there slinging it?

They tried to copy the 49'ers way back in the 90's.

FIND YOUR OWN ****ING WAY.

WHICH MEANS DRAFTING A FRANCHISE QB.
It all starts when you get "that guy"

Maybe that's Stanzi.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:02 PM   #426
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:03 PM   #427
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:04 PM   #428
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Chief country is dead on right how many times have we heard that if Matt is surrounded by the right players he will be effective.


Hmm I allways thought great QBs make the players around him better not the other way around.
I've seen too many instances of the players around him doing their job and Cassel utterly failing to capitalize to ever think he'll be effective.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:05 PM   #429
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If haley did get into it with Bowe, after firing him today we should resign Bowe.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:05 PM   #430
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:05 PM   #431
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Like others have said, I just can't take much more. There is only some much you can take when you live and die on this team, reading every day hoping that their damn UDFA's work out. What the **** is the point. The league is about the QB, and the worst part isn't that we don't have one, its that our GM THINKS we ****ing do.

Its been said 1 billion times, maybe literally that many at this point, it doesn't matter what we do with the rest of the roster or who the head coach is. If we let Matt Cassel lead this team we are a lost-cause. Even if they do draft a QB under Cassel they will never let that person have a real chance of playing for atleast a year, atleast.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:09 PM   #432
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Like others have said, I just can't take much more. There is only some much you can take when you live and die on this team, reading every day hoping that their damn UDFA's work out. What the **** is the point. The league is about the QB, and the worst part isn't that we don't have one, its that our GM THINKS we ****ing do.

Its been said 1 billion times, maybe literally that many at this point, it doesn't matter what we do with the rest of the roster or who the head coach is. If we let Matt Cassel lead this team we are a lost-cause. Even if the do draft a QB under Cassel they will never let that person have a real chance of playing for atleast a year, atleast.
This franchise reeks of failure.Over the last few games I've been coming to terms with that. I haven't even been caring lately. The team's play has not mattered anymore, good or bad.

We root for a losing franchise.

It's time to stop caring. The Chiefs are no different than the Cleveland Browns.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:09 PM   #433
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I hate Cassel as much as anybody but he is the least of the Chiefs problems. It all starts at the top
No, Matt Cassel is hardly the least of the Chiefs problems. Justin Houston's lapses in coverage may be the least of the Chiefs problems.

Matt Cassel is a massive problem. Probably the 2nd most of the Chiefs problems.

The fact that he's not as responsible for this trainwreck is the coat-tail rider in the big chair hardly means he's 'the least of our problems'.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:10 PM   #434
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There is no Patriots Way. There is no Green Bay way. There is no Steeler Way.

The "way" is to draft well, make good free agent decisions and surround them all with a HOF quarterback. Win championships.

Did the Steeler Way work when Neil O'Donnell was back there slinging it?

They tried to copy the 49'ers way back in the 90's.

FIND YOUR OWN ****ING WAY.

WHICH MEANS DRAFTING A FRANCHISE QB.

this

QBs make coaches

and Pioli has proven he knows nothing about QBs
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:10 PM   #435
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Yeah, because me saying that "maybe it's Stanzi" but still saying over and over that I would take a quarterback in the first round is deserving of that response.

Let me also say this:

Those of you that shoot down the chance of him being "the guy" without even being given a chance are worse than the guys that think he IS the end all be all.
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