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Old 12-12-2011, 06:43 PM   #1
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And all those players would play in a 43 as well, no?

Point being, we're just as far away from a good defense in the 43 as we are in the 34 - about 2-3 players.
I don't think Dorsey or Jackson would fit in a 4-3 at all, and I think we'd have two find two new outside linebackers who can cover.

This defense is good enough to win a SB if Berry is OK, we get a NT and Houston keeps trending up.
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Old 12-12-2011, 06:45 PM   #2
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And all those players would play in a 43 as well, no?

Point being, we're just as far away from a good defense in the 43 as we are in the 34 - about 2-3 players.
Hali and DJ have been far more productive in the 3-4 it would make no sense going back to the 4-3 at this point if those are the guys we're building around on defense.
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Old 12-12-2011, 06:47 PM   #3
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Yes. Tamba Hali is one of the best pass rushers in the game, DJ is one of the best ILB, and Justin Houston is emerging as well. It shouldn't be that hard to find a good Nose Tackle unless Scott Pioli is the GM.
You're still stuck with 2 4-3 DT's playing in a 3-4. You need big, strong guys that can beat 1-1 blocks at DE in a 3-4. If teams tried to single block Neil Smith he burned them and burned them bad. Jackson registers one sack in 3 years? That's not a good 3-4 DE. O-lineman are constantly on our LB's which is another sign of bad DE's.

Plus, romeo prefers a coverage strategy rather than an attacking one. If that's the case I have never thought a 3-4 to be a good read-n-react defense. My opinion is a 3-4 should be a blitzing and attacking defense with a really intense front 7 who can constantly bring it from anywhere and everywhere at any given time.
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Old 12-12-2011, 06:41 PM   #4
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Just for the sake of argument, do we really have the personnel to play the 34?

Jackson and Dorsey are average 5-techs at best, and we have no true NT.
Jackson and Dorsey are not average 5 techs. They are poor pass rushers, but they are very good against the run. Amon Gordon is good depth.

If Powe works out we are set at starters.

****ing up what we have put together on D the last two years is not something I am interested in doing.
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Old 12-12-2011, 06:43 PM   #5
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Jackson and Dorsey are not average 5 techs. They are poor pass rushers, but they are very good against the run. Amon Gordon is good depth.

If Powe works out we are set at starters.

****ing up what we have put together on D the last two years is not something I am interested in doing.
Yep.

So good we rank 26th in the league against the run.
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Old 12-12-2011, 06:46 PM   #6
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Yep.

So good we rank 26th in the league against the run.
Here we go with the stats.

That's a very deceptive ranking. PFF ranks the Chiefs as a top 10 run defense. Football Outsiders has us at 17th.

We've given up 4.1 YPC this year (15th) and the defense as a whole is allowing something like 19 PPG after the first two weeks.

Nothing wrong with this D Eric Berry won't fix.

Changing the scheme would be a huge setback.
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Yep.

So good we rank 26th in the league against the run.
Still weak up the middle.
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Bringing back Wiegmann was.
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How is Matt Cassel an honest mistake? Our GM watched him practice every day for four years. You can't miss on evaluations like that.
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How is Matt Cassel an honest mistake? Our GM watched him practice every day for four years. You can't miss on evaluations like that.
But other people wanted him!

Namely, the guy that is likely to become our new HC and/or OC.

FML.
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How is Matt Cassel an honest mistake? Our GM watched him practice every day for four years. You can't miss on evaluations like that.
We weren't the only team who wanted him and he came off an 11-5 record. The hope was he would be up and coming. Well, that was false hope.
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We weren't the only team who wanted him and he came off an 11-5 record. The hope was he would be up and coming. Well, that was false hope.
Denver with McDumbass
Tampa Bay

Those are the two who wanted him.
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Those are the two who wanted him.
Was this when Gruden was still the coach? IIRC he didn't get canned til very late in the process.
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Was this when Gruden was still the coach? IIRC he didn't get canned til very late in the process.
No it was Rahemm Morris.
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