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Old 12-12-2011, 06:57 PM   #1
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:01 PM   #2
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Look at the new candidates for head coach. It's going to be from the tree.
I don't believe so.

Clark is going to step into the process.

He'll probably come up with a list based on what Marty is telling him (Marty has been advising Clark) and tell Pioli to pick one.
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:12 PM   #3
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:14 PM   #4
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:14 PM   #5
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The only thing I support Haley on is the Patriot Way is total bullshit.
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:16 PM   #6
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Most of what you say is true. But you know the fact is coaches are hired to be fired. Win or GTFO, no excuses.
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:18 PM   #7
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Most of what you say is true. But you know the fact is coaches are hired to be fired. Win or GTFO, no excuses.
All I want is a GM who builds around his coaches. That's a simple statement.

Thomas Dimitroff abandoned the Patriot Way in Atlanta. Pioli has left no choice but to hire from the tree because he's so inflexible that he can't build a system he doesn't know.
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:21 PM   #8
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Most of what you say is true. But you know the fact is coaches are hired to be fired. Win or GTFO, no excuses.
Also, here's another scary thought.

Given that the Patriots seem to be drafting well again and their defense is back on track (after abandoning the 3-4)... you look at Pioli's last years in New England. You look at how New England has been drafting of late.

I think it's entirely possible that Pioli's scouting methods have always been top-rate, but his personnel/scheme decisions never evolved with the times.
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:22 PM   #9
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Also, here's another scary thought.

Given that the Patriots seem to be drafting well again and their defense is back on track (after abandoning the 3-4)... you look at Pioli's last years in New England. You look at how New England has been drafting of late.

I think it's entirely possible that Pioli's scouting methods have always been top-rate, but his personnel/scheme decisions never evolved with the times.
I don't call getting raped by Sexy Rexy and the Skins "back on track"
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:21 PM   #10
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chiefzilla do you just like to be a contrarian?

Haley sucks get over it
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:22 PM   #11
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chiefzilla do you just like to be a contrarian?

Haley sucks get over it
I only argue furiously about points where I disagree with the majority.

I think Pioli and Cassel need to go. You won't find me on those threads because agreeing with the majority isn't interesting.
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:28 PM   #12
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I only argue furiously about points where I disagree with the majority.

I think Pioli and Cassel need to go. You won't find me on those threads because agreeing with the majority isn't interesting.
the guy had a losing record for 3 seasons what did you expect to happen?
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:30 PM   #13
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the guy had a losing record for 3 seasons what did you expect to happen?
I expected a GM who built around the head coach he selected to be the best. Not a GM that jam-fed his philosophy onto the coach.

You know what? Todd Haley can coach for any franchise today. Scott Pioli is only limited to a handful of coaches who agree with his philosophy. Want to know why he hires from the tree? I thought it was croneyism. Turns out, it's because it's the only system he knows.

This should keep a lot of Chiefs' fans up at night.
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:40 PM   #14
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I expected a GM who built around the head coach he selected to be the best. Not a GM that jam-fed his philosophy onto the coach.

You know what? Todd Haley can coach for any franchise today. Scott Pioli is only limited to a handful of coaches who agree with his philosophy. Want to know why he hires from the tree? I thought it was croneyism. Turns out, it's because it's the only system he knows.

This should keep a lot of Chiefs' fans up at night.
I look at the offense and outside of Cassel I see Haley's fingerprints all over it.
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:41 PM   #15
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I only argue furiously about points where I disagree with the majority.

I think Pioli and Cassel need to go. You won't find me on those threads because agreeing with the majority isn't interesting.
I agree with you completely. Pioli didn't like or want Haley, he did what it took to get rid of him. A good GM builds a team around a head coach, not give him a terrible team and say, just deal with it, what a great GM!
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