Chiefs Now the real truth is coming out - Page 34

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12:13 PM

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Todd Haley was never 100-percent on Tyson Jackson pick. He wanted best player available, not a system D-end. & he wasn't good at hiding it.

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On the Matt Cassel issues, Weis didn't think he could cut it. He argued with Haley over Cassel's development.

FringeNC · 12-12-2011, 06:54 PM

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I HONESTLY believe that Cassel will NOT SUCK with ONE offensive coach and a coach that he can work with. He may not be the next Tom Brady, as some believed he was supposedly promised to be, but he will be a serviceable QB who can win some games. Somehow Cassel gets blamed for sucking when his stupid coach could not keep an OC on staff. I think that dysfunction and turnover absolutely played a part in Cassel's lack of progress.

I also think they should draft someone so I don't agree with Pioli's all eggs in Cassel's basket if that is what he intends to do.

Did you not read the part about Weis refusing to work with him because he thought he was complete garbage?

Sure-Oz · 12-12-2011, 07:03 PM

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@CharlesRobinson no by players. I know Haley is feeding you this info.

Fescoe just won't give up....

chiefscafan · 12-12-2011, 07:05 PM

Memyself you want a serviceable QB? One that can win a couple of games?

Sorry I want to win a lot of games I want to win superbowls I don't want a serviceable QB

ChiefsCountry · 12-12-2011, 07:08 PM

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I just think he deserves a year with some stability and sanity to see if he can become something good. I think Pioli screwed up with Failey in the first place and was NEVER on board with that hire. I think if keeping Cassel means that we don't get a good experienced HC then that is a problem. But I think most FAIR people can see the lack of consistency he was forced to deal with over the last three years with all of the changes in personnel he was dealing with. I think he'll do better with less drama and dysfunction.

Please quit posting you ****ing crack whore.

Sure-Oz · 12-12-2011, 08:03 PM

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@CharlesRobinson no by players. I know Haley is feeding you this info.

Fescoe just won't give up....

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@bobfescoe The same Haley who I said deserved to be fired? Not quite. I got it from two great sources. Keep swinging.
4 minutes ago

Owned

Bewbies · 12-12-2011, 08:06 PM

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I just think he deserves a year with some stability and sanity to see if he can become something good. I think Pioli screwed up with Failey in the first place and was NEVER on board with that hire. I think if keeping Cassel means that we don't get a good experienced HC then that is a problem. But I think most FAIR people can see the lack of consistency he was forced to deal with over the last three years with all of the changes in personnel he was dealing with. I think he'll do better with less drama and dysfunction.

Your football takes are epic genius. You have a 4 digit IQ don't you!?

memyselfI · 12-12-2011, 08:06 PM

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Memyself you want a serviceable QB? One that can win a couple of games?

Sorry I want to win a lot of games I want to win superbowls I don't want a serviceable QB

No, I mean I think that is the minimum we will see from Cassel.

memyselfI · 12-12-2011, 08:07 PM

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Please quit posting you ****ing crack whore.

Bewbies · 12-12-2011, 08:09 PM

Frankie = Memyself

Both just missed medals and got ribbons at the very, very, very, small town Special Olympics.

**dirk digler** · 12-12-2011, 08:17 PM

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No, Matt Cassel is hardly the least of the Chiefs problems. Justin Houston's lapses in coverage may be the least of the Chiefs problems.

Matt Cassel is a massive problem. Probably the 2nd most of the Chiefs problems.

The fact that he's not as responsible for this trainwreck is the coat-tail rider in the big chair hardly means he's 'the least of our problems'.

No he is the least of the Chiefs problems. You can bitch about Cassel, Pioli, Haley sucking all day long but as long as the Hunt's own this team they will never win anything again.

-King- · 12-12-2011, 08:20 PM

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No he is the least of the Chiefs problems. You can bitch about Cassel, Pioli, Haley sucking all day long but as long as the Hunt's own this team they will never win anything again.

Ownership doesn't matter if we can get a good quarterback. No one will care less about Clark Hunt if we have a franchise QB.

**dirk digler** · 12-12-2011, 08:24 PM

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Ownership doesn't matter if we can get a good quarterback. No one will care less about Clark Hunt if we have a franchise QB.

So they will do something that they haven't done in 50 years? I will believe it when I see it

ChiefsCountry · 12-12-2011, 08:25 PM

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So they will do something that they haven't done in 50 years? I will believe it when I see it

They tried in 1983 and 1979.

**dirk digler** · 12-12-2011, 08:29 PM

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They tried in 1983 and 1979.

Oh yeah I forgot about Blackledge and Fuller. So it has been almost 30 years. Not really inspiring confidence.

RJ · 12-12-2011, 08:30 PM

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Ownership doesn't matter if we can get a good quarterback. No one will care less about Clark Hunt if we have a franchise QB.

You greatly underestimate the impact of the owner and GM of any pro sports franchise.

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