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Todd Haley was never 100-percent on Tyson Jackson pick. He wanted best player available, not a system D-end. & he wasn't good at hiding it.


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On the Matt Cassel issues, Weis didn't think he could cut it. He argued with Haley over Cassel's development.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Oh yeah I forgot about Blackledge and Fuller. So it has been almost 30 years. Not really inspiring confidence.

To be fair from 1989 to 2001, it wasn't the best time to be drafting QBs in the first round especially in our draft position. Todd Marinovich, Tommy Maddox, etc.

Now from 2001 on is when have really ****ed up.
Brees, Rodgers, Flacco, Sanchez, Freeman, etc.

[Xanathol]

Tyson Jackson is starting to hit his stride as a 3-4 DE and doing well - the pick of him as a player by itself isn't / wasn't an issue. What was an issue is where in the draft he was taken ( 3rd overall ?!?! ). Even moreso, its taken a 3-4 DE without spending complimentary picks or acquiring a free agent / trade for a really good NT or more LBs. KC is basically playing a 2-2, with a weak link at nose and two LBer positions. But probably the worse factor was that a 3-4 DE was not the biggest need for the team - and that's the most damning part of that pick. Even a really good 3-4 DE is not going to impact your team the way other positions could.

KC needs to clean house - new GM, new HC, and new QB. Just start over.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by Xanathol

KC needs to clean house - new GM, new HC, and new QB. Just start over.

Yep, there is a lot of trash, that needs to be taken out.

[LiL stumppy]

Originally Posted by Xanathol

Tyson Jackson is starting to hit his stride as a 3-4 DE and doing well - the pick of him as a player by itself isn't / wasn't an issue. What was an issue is where in the draft he was taken ( 3rd overall ?!?! ). Even moreso, its taken a 3-4 DE without spending complimentary picks or acquiring a free agent / trade for a really good NT or more LBs. KC is basically playing a 2-2, with a weak link at nose and two LBer positions. But probably the worse factor was that a 3-4 DE was not the biggest need for the team - and that's the most damning part of that pick. Even a really good 3-4 DE is not going to impact your team the way other positions could.

KC needs to clean house - new GM, new HC, and new QB. Just start over.

No, they dont.

Pioli needs to admit a mistake in Cassel and move on, only way he needs to be gone if he doesnt.

New QB, decent OC, average RT and the Chiefs are good football team. We don't need to start over, we need to fix thee few problems.

[MahiMike]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

LOL. Part of the exit negotiations probably involved Haley signing a NDA to protect Pioli from embarrassment.

Beat me to it. But if we know Todd, he'll say fuggit and throw Scott under the bus anyway.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by Frankie

So, she has no right to an opinion?

Correct. She forfeited that right a long time and billions of brain cells ago.

Originally Posted by memyselfI

Ooops, looks like Failey is gone and I'm still here.

Haley's gone and you're still a dumb bitch. Joy.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Wish we could fast-forward 3 years and start discussing who will replace Pioli and McDaniels when they inevitably get canned after 3 more miserable seasons. No coach worth a damn is going to work under Scott Pioli, because they all know that Pioli is an insufferable egomaniac, can't evaluate talent, and will micro-manage them to death and then stab them in the back.

I don't care about Haley getting fired. No one who conducts themselves as immaturely as he did will ever be a good leader of men. Josh McDaniels acted the same way in Denver, but Pioli will hire him anyway because he'll be able to control McDaniels, and Pioli is a control freak. Pioli has been a disaster, in my opinion. A complete failure. The healing of this sorry ass franchise won't even start until Pioli gets fired, and what are the chances Clark will get the next hire right? 10 percent or less?

[Shogun]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks

Wish we could fast-forward 3 years and start discussing who will replace Pioli and McDaniels when they inevitably get canned after 3 more miserable seasons. No coach worth a damn is going to work under Scott Pioli, because they all know that Pioli is an insufferable egomaniac, can't evaluate talent, and will micro-manage them to death and then stab them in the back.

I don't care about Haley getting fired. No one who conducts themselves as immaturely as he did will ever be a good leader of men. Josh McDaniels acted the same way in Denver, but Pioli will hire him anyway because he'll be able to control McDaniels, and Pioli is a control freak. Pioli has been a disaster, in my opinion. A complete failure. The healing of this sorry ass franchise won't even start until Pioli gets fired, and what are the chances Clark will get the next hire right? 10 percent or less?

Clark is totally gonna try out this whole GM'ing thing so he can write himself a check.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Anyone make out the whole thing?

...

ATTENTION: SCOTT PIOLI & CLARK HUNT

FROM: A 33 Year Season Ticket Holder

$32 MILLION UNDER THE SPENDING CAP? TYLER PALKO AT QB? TOSS SWEEPS TO JACKIE BATTLE?......REALLY?.....

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH CLARK! Its time you stop gouging the loyal season ticket holders of this town. At the conclusion of the final home game, you and Scott should be wearing Santa hats and handing out refund checks to all season ticket holders at the exits. You ROBBED US AGAIN!... Make my check payable to MIKE MASON (P.S. – I want a free hot dog too!)

DO THE RIGHT THING CLARK! ------------------------- I DON’T THINK JACK HARRY IS TOO HAPPY EITHER!

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by DaFace

ATTENTION: SCOTT PIOLI &; CLARK HUNT

FROM: A 33 Year Season Ticket Holder

$32 MILLION UNDER THE SPENDING CAP? TYLER PALKO AT QB? TOSS SWEEPS TO JACKIE BATTLE?......REALLY?.....

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH CLARK! Its time you stop gouging the loyal season ticket holders of this town. At the conclusion of the final home game, you and Scott should be wearing Santa hats and handing out refund checks to all season ticket holders at the exits. You ROBBED US AGAIN!... Make my check payable to MIKE MASON (P.S. – I want a free hot dog too!)

DO THE RIGHT THING CLARK! ------------------------- I DON’T THINK JACK HARRY IS TOO HAPPY EITHER!

Nice

[Al Bundy]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

You stupid, cocksucking, ****ing whore: Cassel was around when we lost 3 in a row by a combined score of 109-27 to start the season 0-3.

I would take 5 more years of Haley if it means you would go away forever you worthless bitch.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

Frankie = Memyself

Both just missed medals and got ribbons at the very, very, very, small town Special Olympics.

You know I forget whose ass I badly rape in a debate and when. But yours must be hurting badly if I'm not even in this conversation and you bring my name up like this.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Part of the reason?

He IS the reason - he's the guy who hired Pioli.

To be fair, 3 years ago EVERYBODY thought that Scott Pioli was God's gift to Football.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

On a side note, I'm looking forward to the cluster**** that is Muir calling plays the rest of the year now that Todd is gone.

Should be comical.

Actually I am now totally rooting for us to lose out and at least secure a high draft position. I was a supporter of Haley's enough to not want him fired yet. But that ship has sailed. All I want from the rest of the season is hopefully to see and evaluate Stanzi on the field, and to end up with a good draft position.

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

I wish someone would have asked Pioli how it is that a coach who took the team to the playoffs by winning the division and was named the AFC Coach of the Year less than a year ago is suddenly so bad he needs to be fired in a season where we've lost many key players (including Pioli's golden boy Cassel) to injury...

How is it that the KC sports media (judging by the posters here) are populated with only ball-less reporters and rumor mongers? Really. What makes them afraid of Pioli or Carl Peterson?

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Correct. She forfeited that right a long time and billions of brain cells ago.

Well then I may have missed her post forfeiting it.

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks

No coach worth a damn is going to work under Scott Pioli, because they all know that Pioli is an insufferable egomaniac, can't evaluate talent, and will micro-manage them to death and then stab them in the back.

Just say Scott Davis, or Al Pioli.

[OnTheWarpath15]

No, not everybody.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

No, they dont.

Pioli needs to admit a mistake in Cassel and move on, only way he needs to be gone if he doesnt.

New QB, decent OC, average RT and the Chiefs are good football team. We don't need to start over, we need to fix thee few problems.

I agree. Hell, if Pioli just cuts Cassel and does all he can to get us one of the top 3 QBs, I think Chiefs fans will say "ok he has ****ed up at times but this is him fixing it" and give him a chance again. Sticking with Cassel only cements his failure.

[JCharles1981]

Originally Posted by chiefscafan

Here is something interesting to think do u think palko gets booed in arrowhead if he starts Sunday??

Probably. But, since Haley is out the door, there's no guarantee Palko will start on Sunday, and that WOULD BE A GOOD THING!