Chiefs Desired Characteristics in the Next Head Coach - Page 3

**Rain Man** · 12-12-2011, 07:11 PM

It'll take me a few minutes to get the poll put up, so in the meantime, discuss why NASA hasn't used dog breeding philosophies and selective breeding to produce little tiny astronauts for Mars missions.

Rasputin · 12-13-2011, 11:44 AM

Hank Stram & or Vince Lombardi characteristics work for me.

Rooster · 12-13-2011, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Your primary candidates based on this qualification are Weis, Crennel and Mangini. If forced to speculate on whose are the most feminine, I have to go with Mangina.

Pitt Gorilla · 12-13-2011, 11:45 AM

Dreamy.

durtyrute · 12-13-2011, 11:49 AM

Whatever coach is the most like Mike is the one I want

**the Talking Can** · 12-13-2011, 11:52 AM

i closed my eyes and clicked on things

+ i want a coach who enjoys a good public finger banging

kc rush · 12-13-2011, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia

I want the guy to have fingers so he'll have a place to keep rings.

Or finger women at bars?

**Rain Man** · 12-13-2011, 11:58 AM

It appears that our consensus coach is the following:

an X's and O's guy as opposed to a player's coach
a guy who doesn't want GM duties
a guy who was a fringe player himself in the NFL
a guy who is not from one of the major coaching dynasties
a guy with coordinator experience, but not a former NFL head coach
a guy with an offensive background
a guy who drafts best player available instead of building around a system
a guy who is cool, sophisticated, and cerebral
a guy who leans more toward too bold as opposed to too conservative.

Okay, so who's out there that fits these criteria?

Chief Roundup · 12-13-2011, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

i closed my eyes and clicked on things

+ i want a coach who enjoys a good public finger banging

You want to be the first franchise to hire a Woman Head Coach??? New level of the Rooney Rule...hmmmm

KC-TBB · 12-13-2011, 12:03 PM

must be named Mike

Chiefnj2 · 12-13-2011, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

It appears that our consensus coach is the following:

an X's and O's guy as opposed to a player's coach
a guy who doesn't want GM duties
a guy who was a fringe player himself in the NFL
a guy who is not from one of the major coaching dynasties
a guy with coordinator experience, but not a former NFL head coach
a guy with an offensive background
a guy who drafts best player available instead of building around a system
a guy who is cool, sophisticated, and cerebral
a guy who leans more toward too bold as opposed to too conservative.

Okay, so who's out there that fits these criteria?

COACHING
Rob Chudzinski followed head coach Ron Rivera from the San Diego Chargers to Carolina to be the Panthers' offensive coordinator. In 17 previous seasons as an NFL and college assistant, he has had success leading offenses and earned a reputation for developing tight ends.

As the Chargers' tight ends and assistant head coach in 2010, Chudzinski helped San Diego rank first in the NFL in total offense with an average of 395.6 yards per game and second in scoring with an average of 27.6 points per game.

Tight end Antonio Gates excelled during both of Chudzinski's two-year stints on the Chargers coaching staff from 2005-06 and 2009-10. Gates made his seventh consecutive Pro Bowl last season, one year after producing a career-high 1,157 yards. In 2005, Chudzinski's first season as San Diego's tight ends coach, Gates registered the only other 1,000-yard receiving season of his career with 1,101 yards on a career-high 89 receptions.

In between Chudzinski's stints with the Chargers, he served as the Cleveland Browns offensive coordinator for two seasons. In 2007, the Browns won 10 games - their most wins since 1994 - and Chudzinski's offense played a key role in the team's success. Cleveland ranked eighth in the league in total offense and scoring, accumulating 5,621 net yards and 402 points.

Four players went to the Pro Bowl: quarterback Derek Anderson, wide receiver Braylon Edwards, tackle Joe Thomas and tight end Kellen Winslow II. Anderson threw 29 touchdowns, while Edwards and Winslow combined with running back Jamal Lewis to give the Browns two 1,000-yard receivers and a 1,000-yard rusher.

Chudzinski began his pro coaching career as Cleveland's tight ends coach in 2004 and worked with Winslow, the team's top draft choice. He was elevated to offensive coordinator for the final five games of the season under interim head coach Terry Robiskie after the resignation of head coach Butch Davis.

From 1994-2003, Chudzinski spent 10 years as an assistant at his alma mater, the University of Miami (Fla.): three seasons as offensive coordinator, five as tight ends coach and two as a graduate assistant.

During his three years as offensive coordinator, he guided a unit that went 12-0 and won the national championship in 2001 and set school records for points, total yards and rushing touchdowns the next season. In addition, Chudzinski worked with numerous future NFL players, including them wide receiver Andre Johnson, running backs Frank Gore, Willis McGahee and Clinton Portis, tackle Bryant McKinnie and quarterback Ken Dorsey.

Promoted from graduate assistant to tight ends coach in 1996, Miami's tight ends flourished under Chudzinski's tutelage. He mentored Bubba Franks, Jeremy Shockey and Winslow, all of whom were All-Americans and became first-round draft picks and Pro Bowl players in the NFL.

PLAYING AND PERSONAL
A three-year starter at tight end for Miami (Fla.) from 1986-90, Chudzinski played on national championship teams in 1987 and 1989. He earned a bachelor's degree in business administration in 1990 and added a master's degree in business administration in 1996. Chudzinski and his wife, Sheila, have two sons, Kaelan and Rian, and a daughter, Margaret.

HISTORY
Tight end Miami (Fla.) 1986-90. College coach: Miami (Fla.) 1994-2003. Pro coach: Cleveland Browns 2004, 2007-08, San Diego Chargers 2005-06, 2009-10, joined Panthers in 2011.

**Rain Man** · 12-13-2011, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

COACHING
Rob Chudzinski ...

Chudzinski, eh? Let's see

an X's and O's guy as opposed to a player's coach - Check
a guy who doesn't want GM duties - Probably check
a guy who was a fringe player himself in the NFL - No, but was on a national champion college team
a guy who is not from one of the major coaching dynasties - Check
a guy with coordinator experience, but not a former NFL head coach - Check
a guy with an offensive background - Check
a guy who drafts best player available instead of building around a system - Not sure yet
a guy who is cool, sophisticated, and cerebral - Don't know
a guy who leans more toward too bold as opposed to too conservative - Don't know

Seems promising.

MOhillbilly · 12-13-2011, 12:16 PM

A coach that will build a powerhouse and rule like Stalin.

suds79 · 12-13-2011, 12:19 PM

Could have been a lot easier to have a "Has no ties to Scott Pioli" option.

I checked everything in that category that pertained to that.

**Predarat** · 12-13-2011, 12:19 PM

Where is the box for NOT Josh McDaniels.

Bump · 12-13-2011, 12:21 PM

Vermeil + Crennel and our defense as it is now = CHAMPIONSHIP! Of course, Vermeil would probably go get a QB like he did with Trent Green but I think Vermeil could do some wonders with RG3.

Make it happen Scott.

But it won't. Vermeil only came here because of his relationship with Carl. So, I don't really know at all who I'd want as HC realistically.

View Poll Results: Multi-Part Poll. Pick one from each set of choices. Then discuss.
**** Part 1. Player relationships.	5	7.46%
Coach is a "player's coach".	13	19.40%
Coach is an X’s and O’s coach and not a “player’s coach”	48	71.64%
**** Part 2. Personnel power	4	5.97%
Coach is also GM	6	8.96%
Coach and GM are separate	55	82.09%
**** Part 3. Playing history	4	5.97%
Coach played in the NFL as a star	7	10.45%
Coach played in the NFL as a fringe player	42	62.69%
Coach never played in the NFL	12	17.91%
**** Part 4. Super Bowl history	3	4.48%
Coach has a Super Bowl ring as a head coach	15	22.39%
Coach has a Super Bowl ring as a coordinator	31	46.27%
Coach has a Super Bowl ring as an assistant (non-coordinator)	19	28.36%
Coach has not been involved as a coach in a Super Bowl	11	16.42%
**** Part 5. Coaching pedigree	5	7.46%
Coach comes from the Belichick tree	6	8.96%
Coach comes from the Schottenheimer tree	7	10.45%
Coach comes from the Parcells tree	4	5.97%
Coach comes from the Walsh tree	3	4.48%
Coach comes from the Jimmy Johnson tree	3	4.48%
Coach comes from the tree of some other Super Bowl winning coach in the past decade	17	25.37%
Coach does not come from any of the dynasty trees.	31	46.27%
**** Part 6. NFL Coaching experience	4	5.97%
Coach has been a previous NFL head coach	20	29.85%
Coach has been an NFL coordinator, but not head coach	39	58.21%
Coach has been a college head coach, but no NFL experience	10	14.93%
Coach has been a college coordinator, but no NFL or head coach experience	2	2.99%
**** Part 7. Offense vs. Defense	4	5.97%
Coach came up as an offensive guy	39	58.21%
Coach came up as a defensive guy	21	31.34%
**** Part 8. Sustainability vs. Turnaround	4	5.97%
Coach has a stronger lifetime W-L record	40	59.70%
Coach has a less strong W-L record, but has a record of turning around bad teams	19	28.36%
**** Part 9. Skills vs. Systems	4	5.97%
Coach is known for development of fundamental skills in players more than innovative systems	37	55.22%
Coach is known for developing innovative systems over developing fundamental skills	22	32.84%
**** Part 10. Best player available vs. Cohesive system	5	7.46%
Coach drafts/acquires best available players even if they’re not a fit for his current system.	35	52.24%
Coach drafts/acquires players who best fit a system that he puts into place even if they’re not the best raw players	24	35.82%
**** Part 11. Personality	4	5.97%
Coach is fiery, rough, and demonstrative	22	32.84%
Coach is cool, sophisticated, and cerebral	37	55.22%
**** Part 12. Risk-Taking	4	5.97%
Coach is, if anything, too bold for his own good.	53	79.10%
Coach is, if anything, too conservative for his own good.	2	2.99%
**** Part 13. Coach timeline	4	5.97%
Coach should have 1-2 years to turn this baby around	21	31.34%
Coach should have 3-4 years to turn this baby around	37	55.22%
I plan to write to NASA about that whole tiny astronaut thing.	8	11.94%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 67. You may not vote on this poll

12-12-2011, 07:11 PM
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-652449 VARSITY	Desired Characteristics in the Next Head Coach It'll take me a few minutes to get the poll put up, so in the meantime, discuss why NASA hasn't used dog breeding philosophies and selective breeding to produce little tiny astronauts for Mars missions.
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12-13-2011, 11:44 AM	#31
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12-13-2011, 11:45 AM	#33
Pitt Gorilla Banned! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: NOT Columbia, MO 65201 Casino cash: $-109806	Dreamy. __________________ Your son is a bench warmer because of your weak genetics not because of the coach Norlin Mommsen is disgusting.
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12-13-2011, 11:49 AM	#34
durtyrute MVP Join Date: Mar 2011 Casino cash: $5546085	Whatever coach is the most like Mike is the one I want
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12-13-2011, 11:52 AM	#35
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12-13-2011, 11:58 AM	#37
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-652449 VARSITY	It appears that our consensus coach is the following: an X's and O's guy as opposed to a player's coach a guy who doesn't want GM duties a guy who was a fringe player himself in the NFL a guy who is not from one of the major coaching dynasties a guy with coordinator experience, but not a former NFL head coach a guy with an offensive background a guy who drafts best player available instead of building around a system a guy who is cool, sophisticated, and cerebral a guy who leans more toward too bold as opposed to too conservative. Okay, so who's out there that fits these criteria? __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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12-13-2011, 12:03 PM	#39
KC-TBB It is, what it is... Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Harpers Ferry, WV Casino cash: $4505719	must be named Mike
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12-13-2011, 12:16 PM	#42
MOhillbilly Mama Tried Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $9949903	A coach that will build a powerhouse and rule like Stalin. __________________ True Son of Liberty
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12-13-2011, 12:19 PM	#43
suds79 MVP Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10005036	Could have been a lot easier to have a "Has no ties to Scott Pioli" option. I checked everything in that category that pertained to that.
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12-13-2011, 12:19 PM	#44
Predarat Run Chiefs fans, run!! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Nashville, TN Casino cash: $9963863	Where is the box for NOT Josh McDaniels.
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12-13-2011, 12:21 PM	#45
Bump YOU take YOUR seat Join Date: Nov 2007 Casino cash: $-1634895	Vermeil + Crennel and our defense as it is now = CHAMPIONSHIP! Of course, Vermeil would probably go get a QB like he did with Trent Green but I think Vermeil could do some wonders with RG3. Make it happen Scott. But it won't. Vermeil only came here because of his relationship with Carl. So, I don't really know at all who I'd want as HC realistically.
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