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View Poll Results: Multi-Part Poll. Pick one from each set of choices. Then discuss.
**** Part 1. Player relationships. 5 7.46%
Coach is a "player's coach". 13 19.40%
Coach is an X’s and O’s coach and not a “player’s coach” 48 71.64%
**** Part 2. Personnel power 4 5.97%
Coach is also GM 6 8.96%
Coach and GM are separate 55 82.09%
**** Part 3. Playing history 4 5.97%
Coach played in the NFL as a star 7 10.45%
Coach played in the NFL as a fringe player 42 62.69%
Coach never played in the NFL 12 17.91%
**** Part 4. Super Bowl history 3 4.48%
Coach has a Super Bowl ring as a head coach 15 22.39%
Coach has a Super Bowl ring as a coordinator 31 46.27%
Coach has a Super Bowl ring as an assistant (non-coordinator) 19 28.36%
Coach has not been involved as a coach in a Super Bowl 11 16.42%
**** Part 5. Coaching pedigree 5 7.46%
Coach comes from the Belichick tree 6 8.96%
Coach comes from the Schottenheimer tree 7 10.45%
Coach comes from the Parcells tree 4 5.97%
Coach comes from the Walsh tree 3 4.48%
Coach comes from the Jimmy Johnson tree 3 4.48%
Coach comes from the tree of some other Super Bowl winning coach in the past decade 17 25.37%
Coach does not come from any of the dynasty trees. 31 46.27%
**** Part 6. NFL Coaching experience 4 5.97%
Coach has been a previous NFL head coach 20 29.85%
Coach has been an NFL coordinator, but not head coach 39 58.21%
Coach has been a college head coach, but no NFL experience 10 14.93%
Coach has been a college coordinator, but no NFL or head coach experience 2 2.99%
**** Part 7. Offense vs. Defense 4 5.97%
Coach came up as an offensive guy 39 58.21%
Coach came up as a defensive guy 21 31.34%
**** Part 8. Sustainability vs. Turnaround 4 5.97%
Coach has a stronger lifetime W-L record 40 59.70%
Coach has a less strong W-L record, but has a record of turning around bad teams 19 28.36%
**** Part 9. Skills vs. Systems 4 5.97%
Coach is known for development of fundamental skills in players more than innovative systems 37 55.22%
Coach is known for developing innovative systems over developing fundamental skills 22 32.84%
**** Part 10. Best player available vs. Cohesive system 5 7.46%
Coach drafts/acquires best available players even if they’re not a fit for his current system. 35 52.24%
Coach drafts/acquires players who best fit a system that he puts into place even if they’re not the best raw players 24 35.82%
**** Part 11. Personality 4 5.97%
Coach is fiery, rough, and demonstrative 22 32.84%
Coach is cool, sophisticated, and cerebral 37 55.22%
**** Part 12. Risk-Taking 4 5.97%
Coach is, if anything, too bold for his own good. 53 79.10%
Coach is, if anything, too conservative for his own good. 2 2.99%
**** Part 13. Coach timeline 4 5.97%
Coach should have 1-2 years to turn this baby around 21 31.34%
Coach should have 3-4 years to turn this baby around 37 55.22%
I plan to write to NASA about that whole tiny astronaut thing. 8 11.94%
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:11 PM  
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Old 12-13-2011, 12:27 PM   #46
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The poll fails to capture what I want in a coach.
Criteria #1 Coach needs to have an offensive coordinator/QB coach who can identify elite QB talent at the collegiate level and develop it at the pro level.
Criteria #2 Coach needs to have an aggressive mentality with respect to both defense, offense and game management. I want to see blitzes. I want to see fakes on special teams. I want to see down-field passes.
Criteria #3 Coach needs to be a strong leader and motivator. By this I mean his players need to trust him but not necessarily like him. He needs to demand and get maximum production out of his players.
Criteria #4 Coach needs to be able to delegate to and trust his assistants and coordinators.



Edit: As part of #4, the Coach should be providing purpose, direction and motivation to his team. He needs to accomplish this through strong oversight and through his coordinators. His assistants and coordinators need to accomplish the gameplanning and enforcement of fundamentals. The Head Coach should sign off on these and develop an over-arcing plan for the other coaches to implement.
Much beyond this, I couldn't give a ****.


I totally agree with all of this.
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Old 12-13-2011, 12:29 PM   #47
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Old 12-13-2011, 12:47 PM   #48
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I feel a HC should get 3 years.

I hated Haley, hated his style, and I'm fine with him being gone. I don't see an extra 3 games changing much of anything but if I'm the GM I'd still give the guy I went out on a limb for his 3 years.

If there is anything this organization needs to learn is that it's better to give up to soon than to late...
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Old 12-13-2011, 12:49 PM   #49
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This. Elite QB is more important than coach.
I disagree.

I think that has to be A and B.

That's the key points. Coach and QB.

It's not about one or the other it's when you get both you do something special...
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I think there's one category we're missing. A winner. I don't care who they hire, I don't care who they cut, I don't care who they fire. Just win. It won't matter if we don't like the coach or not, winning makes you like a coach a whole lot better than any bullshit reason.
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I disagree.

I think that has to be A and B.

That's the key points. Coach and QB.

It's not about one or the other it's when you get both you do something special...
Jim Caldwell/ Peyton Manning

A QB makes the coach.
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Jim Caldwell/ Peyton Manning

A QB makes the coach.
Walsh made Montana.

I don't think Brady is Brady without the Hoody.

Bradshaw is a total ****ing idiot. There's no way he finds his way out of a closet without guidance.

I will say that you need both the HC and the QB or there is no SB.

There are only 2 exceptions I can think of in (modern age) the last 20 years...
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Walsh made Montana.

I don't think Brady is Brady without the Hoody.

Bradshaw is a total ****ing idiot. There's no way he finds his way out of a closet without guidance.

I will say that you need both the HC and the QB or there is no SB.

There are only 2 exceptions I can think of in (modern age) the last 20 years...
And what I am saying is you will have more success with an elite QB than with a coach.
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So who are the canidates that best fit the majority votes?
It would be cool if someone with these awesome poll abilities wanted to continue this effort to narrow down canidates and name a chiefsplanet HC nomination by popular vote.
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And what I am saying is you will have more success with an elite QB than with a coach.
There are a ton of HOF QB's who'd argue that...
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No they would agree.
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