12/13/11 updated draft chart

[Chiefnj2]

KC still sitting outside of the top 10

1 Indianapolis 0-13 .548
2 Minnesota 2-11 .567
3 St. Louis 2-11 .582
4 Washington 4-9 .457
5/6F Jacksonville 4-9 .505
5/6F Carolina 4-9 .505
7 Miami 4-9 .524
8 Cleveland 4-9 .529
9 Tampa Bay 4-9 .538
10 Philadelphia 5-8 .490
11 Buffalo 5-8 .514
12 Kansas City 5-8 .524

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

We just need to trade up with Carolina.

Whats the price gonna be though?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

This Tebow shit is going a little too far. The amount of shit that has to happen ever week for Tebow to win is ****ing amazing.

Marion Barber had to **** up epically 2.

Everyone else realize that Tim Tebow is essentially Mark Sanchez, right?

Sanchez actually has a whole slew of 4th quarter comebacks; a bunch of them were because he sucked for 1/2 the game. He's a hell of an athlete and his teammates enjoy playing for him.

Yet in NYJ, Sanchez get absolutely murdered whereas Tebow is a deity. Give it time, Timmy. You can tell luck from skill by its duration. By next year you'll stop having stupid shit like Marion Barber stepping out of bounds and suddenly you'll be just another quarterback with some comebacks on his resume. Fortunately for you, you'll still be in this shithole of a division, so you may still be a playoff quarterback on the strength of your defense (again, just like good ol' Sanchez).

That said - I'm still enjoying the hell out of the Tebow thing this year. I've been rooting for them for 3 weeks because my options are them, the Raiders and the Chargers. Tebow, for as bad as he is at actually throwing a football, seems like a damn nice guy and good leader. And to his credit, unlike Cassel, Tebow is generally able to put together a nice quarter at the end of the game. Cassel would just continue to suck for the full 60 minutes, even with that Broncos defense at his disposal.

It's not his fault ESPN (or Lindsay Vonn) won't stop sucking his dick all the time.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by O.city

This Tebow shit is going a little too far. The amount of shit that has to happen ever week for Tebow to win is ****ing amazing.

Marion Barber had to **** up epically 2.

Yeah Barber gave us a chance, and you don't give a great QB a chance because he will make you pay. Kyle Orton would have choked but there was no doubt in my mind that Tebow was going to get us back in the game. He has something all the great QB's have... the "It Factor".

[KC_Lee]

Originally Posted by O.city

Whats the price gonna be though?

Give Carolina our 2012 1st, 3rd, and 2013 2nd for their 1st and 5th.

That's my guess.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Yeah Barber gave us a chance, and you don't give a great QB a chance because he will make you pay. Kyle Orton would have choked but there was no doubt in my mind that Tebow was going to get us back in the game. He has something all the great QB's have... the "It Factor".

He has something none of the great QB's have: a 48% completion percentage.

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by O.city

Just found this on ESPN, updated draft standings.


Current NFL Draft order

1. Colts
2. Vikings
3. Rams
4. Panthers
5. Redskins
6. Browns
7. Dolphins
8. Jaguars
9. Buccaneers
10. Chiefs
11. Eagles
12. Bills

I believe ESPN uses the current games played for SOS while the site in the threadstarter is based on SOS including games not played yet.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by KC_Lee

Give Carolina our 2012 1st, 3rd, and 2013 2nd for their 1st and 5th.

That's my guess.

I'd pull that trigger.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Yeah Barber gave us a chance, and you don't give a great QB a chance because he will make you pay. Kyle Orton would have choked but there was no doubt in my mind that Tebow was going to get us back in the game. He has something all the great QB's have... the "It Factor".

1 Aaron Rodgers 87.0
2 Drew Brees 79.5
3 Tom Brady 76.6
4 Tony Romo 71.0
5 Matt Schaub 66.7
6 Ben Roethlisberger 66.2
7 Matt Hasselbeck 64.0
8 Matt Ryan 63.1
9 Eli Manning 62.3
10 Jay Cutler 59.5
11 Matt Moore 59.1
12 Ryan Fitzpatrick 58.7
13 Michael Vick 58.1
14 Jason Campbel 58.1
15 Cam Newton 56.8
16 Philip Rivers 55.9
17 Joe Flacco 55.3
18 Matthew Stafford 55.1
19 Carson Palmer 55.1
20 Christian Ponder 49.0
21 Matt Cassel 48.8
22 Josh Freeman 47.0
23 Andy Dalton 46.5
24 Alex Smith 46.3
25 Donovan McNabb 44.3
26 Colt McCoy 43.0
27 Tarvaris Jackson 41.0
28 Rex Grossman 39.7
29 Mark Sanchez 38.3
30 Tim Tebow 36.3
31 Kevin Kolb 35.9
32 Sam Bradford 29.5
33 Curtis Painter 23.4
34 Blaine Gabbert 21.8

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

He has something none of the great QB's have: a 48% completion percentage.

The next Elway? Numbers put Tebow in legendary company



Steve Young only completed 53% of his passes his first two years in the league and he retired with the highest career completion percentage in NFL history.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'd pull that trigger.

I would as well.

[whoman69]

Chance that teams that are possibly looking to QB:

1 Indianapolis 0-13 .548 no-brainer they get Luck
2 Minnesota 2-11 .567 doubtful with Webb and Ponder
3 St. Louis 2-11 .582 still doubt they would do this with Bradford
4 Washington 4-9 .457 probably, but will Shanahan go rookie with his job on the line or is he already gone
5/6F Jacksonville 4-9 .505 doubtful, but is Gabbart passing his tryout
5/6F Carolina 4-9 .505 no chance
7 Miami 4-9 .524 You really think they'd stick with Moore
8 Cleveland 4-9 .529 Probably, but could try to surround McCoy with more talent
9 Tampa Bay 4-9 .538 not likely
10 Philadelphia 5-8 .490 despite the media hype, they can't give up on Vick with the money they're paying
11 Buffalo 5-8 .514 too many dollars in Fitzgerald
12 Kansas City 5-8 .524 if they don't, they're stupid

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I will never root for the Chiefs to lose a game!!

Me neither, Hamas, me neither.

But then, I'm not suffering from some delusion that who I root for in a game has a direct impact to the outcome.

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

The next Elway? Numbers put Tebow in legendary company



Steve Young only completed 53% of his passes his first two years in the league and he retired with the highest career completion percentage in NFL history.

Elway didn't know he wasn't supposed to throw the ball as hard as he could every play. He needed to learn touch. Young played for the Bucs and was running for his life the whole time. Tebow just can't throw.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Yeah Barber gave us a chance, and you don't give a great QB a chance because he will make you pay. Kyle Orton would have choked but there was no doubt in my mind that Tebow was going to get us back in the game. He has something all the great QB's have... the "It Factor".

Tebow complete 3/7 passes on that drive to get you fellas in position to kick a FG that would have never gone in outside of Denver's thin air. He did so against a team that lost to Tyler !@#$ing Palko last week.

Good point - never EVER give Tyler Palko a chance to beat you...

I'll give you credit; you're the best homer/troll I've ever seen.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by jd1020

bunch of meaningless stats

It isn't about stats with Tebow. He is a playmaker. When the play breaks down Tebow is already the best in the league at turning something out of nothing.

How many of those QB's could do this?