Chiefs Haley's termination. Cliff notes and highlites? - Page 6

milkman · 12-13-2011, 10:33 PM

So I've worked long hours the last couple of days, and haven't had much time to read the threads.

In perusing a couple of threads, I've seen someone alluding to "things we've learned" about this firing.

Can someone enlighten me what it is we've learned?

**BossChief** · 12-14-2011, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega

Haley was being a huge dick to Bowe during practice.

Bowe went to Pioli to complain.

HMMMM

I have no doubts that Haley was being a dick to him in practice.

Bowe dropped a wide open touchdown pass.

AGAIN

I know you never played football, but when you screw up, you get yelled at and the more the problem exists, the worse it gets till the problem is fixed.

Its called coaching and Haley has rode Bowe since day one.

Do I think Bowe went right to Pioli to complain about it?

NOT

A

CHANCE

FAX · 12-14-2011, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

How exactly do you know there is 0 truth to that?

Difficult to prove a negative.

I've been trying for ... almost ... ever, with no luck. Zero. Nil. Nada. I can't prove it, though.

FAX

Hammock Parties · 12-14-2011, 12:43 AM

I dunno, maybe Haley called Bowe a bunch of racist shit or something.

There is a line on that shit, especially to a guy who has arrived like Bowe.

And quite frankly, Haley has no right to do that when he's trotting out Palko, who basically makes it impossible for the wide receivers to have good games.

**BossChief** · 12-14-2011, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

There are reports that Haley went off on Bowe and then Bowe went to Pioli. Really not a good idea to do that to a player the team is trying to sign long term.

Some of you are the biggest pussies out there.

You act like the right way to coach a player in practice after a game in which he dropped a wide open touchdown is to make him a fresh batch of chocolate chip cookies and warm milk and give him the day off.

FFS, its football.

Do your job or you will get yelled at for it and worked harder so that you don't continue to make the same mistakes over and over.

KCrockaholic · 12-14-2011, 12:47 AM

Regardless of if there is any truth to the Bowe story, it is a ****ing FACT that the majority of the players in that locker room loved Haley.

We wouldn't have Steve Breaston on this team right now if not for Haley, and Derrick Johnson, Brandon Flowers, and many more players have publicly expressed how much they liked having Todd as their coach.

jd1020 · 12-14-2011, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Some of you are the biggest pussies out there.

You act like the right way to coach a player in practice after a game in which he dropped a wide open touchdown is to make him a fresh batch of chocolate chip cookies and warm milk and give him the day off.

FFS, its football.

Do your job or you will get yelled at for it and worked harder so that you don't continue to make the same mistakes over and over.

My name is not Dwayne Bowe.

Hammock Parties · 12-14-2011, 12:51 AM

And BossChief continues to defend Haley even after he's fired....christ.

Well, I will say one thing, at least we now have more people hating Pioli.

jd1020 · 12-14-2011, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

Regardless of if there is any truth to the Bowe story, it is a ****ing FACT that the majority of the players in that locker room loved Haley.

We wouldn't have Steve Breaston on this team right now if not for Haley, and Derrick Johnson, Brandon Flowers, and many more players have publicly expressed how much they liked having Todd as their coach.

Just like no coach is going to throw the players under the bus, no players are going to publicly trash their boss.

Didn't Albert come out with a tweet right after Haley was fired that expressed his "love" for Haley?

**BossChief** · 12-14-2011, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega

I dunno, maybe Haley called Bowe a bunch of racist shit or something.

There is a line on that shit, especially to a guy who has arrived like Bowe.

And quite frankly, Haley has no right to do that when he's trotting out Palko, who basically makes it impossible for the wide receivers to have good games.

Bullshit.

When a receiver drops passes like that one, wide open in the endzone...and it happens on many occasions, it deserves to have the heat turned up.

Coaches dont have anything to do with contracts and if you guys think he should just give Bowe a bunch of free passes because he is looking for a big free agent contract, you are dead wrong.

Its Piolis job to coddle guys and get them to sign long term....its the coaches job to push the players as hard as they can to get the most out of them.

KCrockaholic · 12-14-2011, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Just like no coach is going to throw the players under the buss, no players are going to publicly trash their boss.

Didn't Albert come out with a tweet right that expressed his "love" for Haley?

Players wont say anything publicly if they have a problem with their coach.

And you have no clue what Albert was talking about in that tweet. Keep the assumptions to yourself.

Hammock Parties · 12-14-2011, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Bullshit.

When a receiver drops passes like that one, wide open in the endzone...and it happens on many occasions, it deserves to have the heat turned up.

Uh, no one is even talking about that drop.

This happened well before the Jets game.

jd1020 · 12-14-2011, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

Players wont say anything publicly if they have a problem with their coach.

And you have no clue what Albert was talking about in that tweet. Keep the assumptions to yourself.

I'm sure he was talking about the baby he was sitting for when he heard the news about Haley.

BigRock · 12-14-2011, 12:55 AM

The Haley/Bowe story is from Nick Wright. Even if there was some small reason to put stock into what that credibility-challenged toucan is saying about anything, and I'm unaware of any such reason, it shouldn't actually occur until Bowe is re-signed. Because that was an element of the story, that they were working on a new contract as this happened.

Incidentally, without naming names, Kent Babb certainly appeared to shoot down that story, saying that "despite what's being leaked" Haley "had an excellent relationship" with his players.

KCrockaholic · 12-14-2011, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

I'm sure he was talking about the baby he was sitting for when he heard the news about Haley.

Well considering Albert has already stated "NO!" that he was not referring to Haley then I'm going to go by that. Assume what you want though, because you're wrong.

**BossChief** · 12-14-2011, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega

And BossChief continues to defend Haley even after he's fired....christ.

Well, I will say one thing, at least we now have more people hating Pioli.

IMO Haley made ONE major mistake in KC after he was hired.

Palko.

The news about him being the one that was coaching Cassel up (not Weis) is just another feather in the guys cap.

The guy is a quality coach that wasn't given the tools here to succeed.

Simple as that, again, IMO.

Within 5 years, he will be back in the saddle again as a head coach and will have learned a lot of lessons for his time as HC in KC.

Think of this for a second, guys.

What players has he failed to develop?

Where would his teams have been if he had a quarterback and the rest of the team was developing as it was?

I dont think there are many here that dont think this team would be a contender with a real franchise quarterback.

12-13-2011, 10:33 PM
milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	Haley's termination. Cliff notes and highlites? So I've worked long hours the last couple of days, and haven't had much time to read the threads. In perusing a couple of threads, I've seen someone alluding to "things we've learned" about this firing. Can someone enlighten me what it is we've learned?
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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $830478	I dunno, maybe Haley called Bowe a bunch of racist shit or something. There is a line on that shit, especially to a guy who has arrived like Bowe. And quite frankly, Haley has no right to do that when he's trotting out Palko, who basically makes it impossible for the wide receivers to have good games. __________________ Chiefs game films
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KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $3342900	Regardless of if there is any truth to the Bowe story, it is a ****ing FACT that the majority of the players in that locker room loved Haley. We wouldn't have Steve Breaston on this team right now if not for Haley, and Derrick Johnson, Brandon Flowers, and many more players have publicly expressed how much they liked having Todd as their coach.
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12-14-2011, 12:55 AM	#88
BigRock Pritay Pritay Pritay Good Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The State of Euphoria Casino cash: $705412	The Haley/Bowe story is from Nick Wright. Even if there was some small reason to put stock into what that credibility-challenged toucan is saying about anything, and I'm unaware of any such reason, it shouldn't actually occur until Bowe is re-signed. Because that was an element of the story, that they were working on a new contract as this happened. Incidentally, without naming names, Kent Babb certainly appeared to shoot down that story, saying that "despite what's being leaked" Haley "had an excellent relationship" with his players.
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