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**Buck** · 12-10-2011, 06:47 PM

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/...enhancing-drug

He's facing a 50 game suspension.

**Buck** · 12-11-2011, 12:58 PM

He drank a Surge and Jolt Cola just before his test.

**alnorth** · 12-11-2011, 01:04 PM

A story on cnn uses slightly different wording from the original report which might be a clue. The story on cnn said the first test showed high levels of testosterone, triggering the second test, which showed a synthetic substance. (The ESPN report said synthetic testosterone) That may imply rather than taking synthetic testosterone (which would make him guilty as hell), maybe he took something else, which as a side-effect led to higher natural testosterone.

Assuming that is the case, if it is a substance known to lead to higher natural testosterone, he's still guilty unless it was a medically necessary prescription. If it is a substance not known to lead to higher testosterone, and we are only now discovering that it does do that, then he might get out of it and this substance could be added to the banned list.

That is all wild speculation in an effort to make sense of Rosenthal's cryptic source given the report, it might just be lazy editing by CNN.

**alnorth** · 12-11-2011, 05:11 PM

Few more details.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...ticle-1.990020

The test result for testosterone was "insanely high", twice the level of anyone else who has ever failed the test in the entire history of that test. Not just among baseball players, but from anyone that they knew about who ever took that test in the world.

Aside from pointing at the insanely-high result as an indication that the test result in this case could be flawed, Braun's people are also going to argue that there were chain-of-custody issues with the samples.

BigCatDaddy · 12-11-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

Few more details.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...ticle-1.990020

The test result for testosterone was "insanely high", twice the level of anyone else who has ever failed the test in the entire history of that test. Not just among baseball players, but from anyone that they knew about who ever took that test in the world.

Aside from pointing at the insanely-high result as an indication that the test result in this case could be flawed, Braun's people are also going to argue that there were chain-of-custody issues with the samples.

Damn. I wonder what level he tested at.

**alnorth** · 12-11-2011, 05:46 PM

couple the "insanely high" result with the alleged chain of custody problems, and one may be tempted to think of conspiracy theories.

**Buck** · 12-15-2011, 01:51 AM

I guess he actually was being treated for herpes.

|Zach| · 12-15-2011, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

The test result for testosterone was "insanely high", twice the level of anyone else who has ever failed the test in the entire history of that test. Not just among baseball players, but from anyone that they knew about who ever took that test in the world.

jd1020 · 12-15-2011, 02:23 AM

It's hard for me to believe he was doping when you've got a test that was off the charts insane followed immediately by a negative test.

Braun might be the first person to win an appeal on a positive test.

**Buck** · 12-15-2011, 02:25 AM

Did you not see my post?

He was being treated for herpes. It caused a spike in testosterone.

Fairplay · 12-15-2011, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck

Did you not see my post?

He was being treated for herpes. It caused a spike in testosterone.

Read his post for crying out loud.

-King- · 12-15-2011, 02:51 AM

That's terrible. Either admit to the world that you were doping or admit that you have herpes. That's a no win situation of I ever heard one.
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**Buck** · 12-15-2011, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Fairplay

Read his post for crying out loud.

I did. I'm telling him exactly what happened.

KC_Connection · 12-15-2011, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck

Did you not see my post?

He was being treated for herpes. It caused a spike in testosterone.

And you're getting this information from where?

There have been a number of ridiculous, bogus excuses I've heard for Braun's test (I certainly never heard such excuse making for Manny two years ago), but this might be the best one yet.

**Buck** · 12-15-2011, 03:51 AM

The Internet.

KC_Connection · 12-15-2011, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck

The Internet.

Yes, that contains very credible stuff like this: http://boards.ign.com/teh_vestibule/...7520393/p1/?16

Quote:

A message from my friend who is a trainer for the Brewers:

I have inside information on the Braun situation. I heard this
yesterday from one source but did not want to jump on it because I was
not sure it was true however I have now heard it from two friends who
both work for the Brewers. According to them Bruan will be let off
because he tested positive for Herpes and the medication given to him
by his doctor (legal to fight this) is what caused the spike. Braun
and his lawyers plan to go after whoever leaked the story because of
HIPPA laws. That is why Braun has not made a statement and that is
also why in Mark's statement he referenced it being a "personal
issue". So will see what happens but from the sounds it the Brewers
brass is pretty confident he will be let off. Still extremely
embarrassing for him but better than roids and more importantly better
for the team. I guess one thing we did learn about Braun through this
whole ordeal is he is not exactly intelligent.

Another link: http://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/articl...herpes/8737903

A bit of advice that I'm sure you've heard before: don't believe everything you read on the Internet. Especially stuff that is so clearly nonsense.

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12-11-2011, 01:04 PM	#62
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57156239	A story on cnn uses slightly different wording from the original report which might be a clue. The story on cnn said the first test showed high levels of testosterone, triggering the second test, which showed a synthetic substance. (The ESPN report said synthetic testosterone) That may imply rather than taking synthetic testosterone (which would make him guilty as hell), maybe he took something else, which as a side-effect led to higher natural testosterone. Assuming that is the case, if it is a substance known to lead to higher natural testosterone, he's still guilty unless it was a medically necessary prescription. If it is a substance not known to lead to higher testosterone, and we are only now discovering that it does do that, then he might get out of it and this substance could be added to the banned list. That is all wild speculation in an effort to make sense of Rosenthal's cryptic source given the report, it might just be lazy editing by CNN. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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12-11-2011, 05:11 PM	#63
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57156239	Few more details. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...ticle-1.990020 The test result for testosterone was "insanely high", twice the level of anyone else who has ever failed the test in the entire history of that test. Not just among baseball players, but from anyone that they knew about who ever took that test in the world. Aside from pointing at the insanely-high result as an indication that the test result in this case could be flawed, Braun's people are also going to argue that there were chain-of-custody issues with the samples. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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12-11-2011, 05:46 PM	#65
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57156239	couple the "insanely high" result with the alleged chain of custody problems, and one may be tempted to think of conspiracy theories. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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jd1020 In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2010 Casino cash: $6932645	It's hard for me to believe he was doping when you've got a test that was off the charts insane followed immediately by a negative test. Braun might be the first person to win an appeal on a positive test.
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