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Old 12-19-2011, 10:45 AM  
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Shockey rips Texans for lack of national anthem etiquette
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HOUSTON (AP) — Carolina Panthers tight end Jeremy Shockey criticized members of the Houston Texans for not putting their hands over their hearts during the national anthem.

Shockey says he saw "about 10 players" who didn't do the traditional gesture when the anthem is played, and he told some of them how he felt during Carolina's 28-13 victory.

"I was pretty upset in the way they weren't showing respect to America during the national anthem," Shockey said. "This is America and you should at least give respect to America."

Shockey's statements didn't make their way back to the Texans' locker room before it closed, and the team had no comment. Shockey's rant came in response to a reporter's question about the Texans' defense.

"This is America and this is just a game and they should not only be very proud of this country, but very gifted to be living here," Shockey said. "Maybe they just forgot to do it or something, but I don't see how you could forget to do that."

Shockey sports a red, white and blue tattoo on his right biceps portraying a bald eagle draped in an American flag. He caught a 9-yard touchdown pass from Cam Newton in Sunday's game, then pointed at linebacker DeMeco Ryans and appeared to yell at him and cornerback Jason Allen.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:16 AM   #16
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Ironically, I'm doing a lesson on flag protocol with our cub scout den this evening, so I spent a bit this morning researching it online. I didn't actually find an official policy on tattoos, but the flag is not supposed to be on clothing.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:16 AM   #17
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Two things about this:

1) The Players are representatives of their teams and if the team mandates this kind of thing, fine.

2) If you don't want to put your hand of your heart, I don't see a problem with that. Isn't that why America is so great, the whole "feedom" thing that we lose more of everyday?
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:18 AM   #18
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:21 AM   #19
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Ironically, I'm doing a lesson on flag protocol with our cub scout den this evening, so I spent a bit this morning researching it online. I didn't actually find an official policy on tattoos, but the flag is not supposed to be on clothing.
Some would probably argue against, but the flag is not to be worn as decoration or as part of a "costume" - a person's skin really isn't any different than a T-shirt in that sense.

It's ironic that displaying the flag in a horizontal fashion, the way they do with the massive flags at football games, is also contrary to the Flag code.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:21 AM   #20
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Good point.
The flag code specifically prohibits the use of flags on costumes or uniforms, EXCEPT those of police and fire officers and the military.
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Good point.
That's a uniform, not a piece of clothing.
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That's a uniform, not a piece of clothing.
LOL. I was just poking fun at your broad description. Uniforms are clothing, but I knew what you meant.
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Symbolism is everywhere in many forms. And there is nothing wrong with it. I've found the less someone cares about anything the less I care if they exist. Or since MLK said it best, "A man who hasn't found something he is willing to die for is not fit to live".

Symbolism to the protocol and respect of our flag is nothing more than respect in this country, and all the men and women who have died defending it. I disagree whole heartily to the "totality of freedom" America has been turning into.

If you say you don't have to pay respect to the flag, like in this case, everyone jumps to their defense as having the freedom of speech to do it. However, Shockey's words of disagreement somehow isn't freedom of speech. I don't get it....
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Symbolism is everywhere in many forms. And there is nothing wrong with it. I've found the less someone cares about anything the less I care if they exist. Or since MLK said it best, "A man who hasn't found something he is willing to die for is not fit to live".

Symbolism to the protocol and respect of our flag is nothing more than respect in this country, and all the men and women who have died defending it. I disagree whole heartily to the "totality of freedom" America has been turning into.

If you say you don't have to pay respect to the flag, like in this case, everyone jumps to their defense as having the freedom of speech to do it. However, Shockey's words of disagreement somehow isn't freedom of speech. I don't get it....
Yep. Dumbass confirmed.
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