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Old 12-19-2011, 06:58 PM   #1
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Standing during the national anthem makes you as patriotic as going to church makes you Christian.

And where on earth is this handbook that requires all American citizens to be patriotic?
I think the argument is more about it appearing disrespectful to some people. Talking in class and disrupting the teacher is also disrespectful, writing "clean me" on someone's dirty rear window is also disrespectful.

None of these are illegal or will get you a ticket, and there's no handbook that helps you out in knowing these type of things, maybe it was your parent's job to teach you this respect and common courtesy. Maybe as an adult, it's supposed to come to you like understanding poetry, in time.
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Old 12-19-2011, 07:03 PM   #2
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I think the argument is more about it appearing disrespectful to some people. Talking in class and disrupting the teacher is also disrespectful, writing "clean me" on someone's dirty rear window is also disrespectful.

None of these are illegal or will get you a ticket, and there's no handbook that helps you out in knowing these type of things, maybe it was your parent's job to teach you this respect and common courtesy. Maybe as an adult, it's supposed to come to you like understanding poetry, in time.
Or perhaps there are differing opinions (which are equally valid) where it concerns the SSB, the observance of it, patriotism...and whether the former two are in any way connected with the latter.

Still haven't gotten an answer to why patriotism is an American obligation.

"Because" isn't quite as satisfying as it sounds.
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Old 12-19-2011, 07:05 PM   #3
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Or perhaps there are differing opinions (which are equally valid) where it concerns the SSB, the observance of it, patriotism...and whether the former two are in any way connected with the latter.

Ultimately, I still haven't gotten an answer to why patriotism is an American obligation.
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Old 12-19-2011, 07:07 PM   #4
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So patriotism is a mere product of one's geography?
That seems rather...shallow.
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Old 12-19-2011, 07:41 PM   #6
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Or perhaps there are differing opinions (which are equally valid) where it concerns the SSB, the observance of it, patriotism...and whether the former two are in any way connected with the latter.

Still haven't gotten an answer to why patriotism is an American obligation.

"Because" isn't quite as satisfying as it sounds.


Why does "because" not sound satisfying? You should be a good sibling, parent or child just "because" too. That's good enough for me.

I think being patriot became a big deal during the world wars, anyway - Hitler and ideas of world domination. Is it really so bad to believe in something that you'd risk your life for it? The American dream, etc is pretty corny but still true to an extent. How about freedoms we have here that do not exist in other countries?
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Old 12-19-2011, 07:47 PM   #7
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Why does "because" not sound satisfying? You should be a good sibling, parent or child just "because" too. That's good enough for me.

I think being patriot became a big deal during the world wars, anyway - Hitler and ideas of world domination. Is it really so bad to believe in something that you'd risk your life for it? The American dream, etc is pretty corny but still true to an extent. How about freedoms we have here that do not exist in other countries?
Because isn't a satisfactory argument, that's why.
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Because isn't a satisfactory argument, that's why.
why isn't it?
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How about freedoms we have here that do not exist in other countries?
There are several countries that have the exact same freedoms we do-- and in many cases they have MORE freedoms than we do
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Canada.
Canada has high taxes, shitty socialized healthcare, does not allow foreign workers and mandates that radio stations play at least 33% Canadian artist.

They tax the shit out of alcohol and tobacco.

While they have the same basic "freedoms" its way more socialist.

The other countries you listed (besides Belize because I don't know) have much higher taxes as well.
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There are several countries that have the exact same freedoms we do-- and in many cases they have MORE freedoms than we do
Your free to move to any of those countries anytime.
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