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Old 12-19-2011, 10:45 AM  
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Shockey rips Texans for lack of national anthem etiquette

http://www.chron.com/sports/article/...te-2410816.php



HOUSTON (AP) — Carolina Panthers tight end Jeremy Shockey criticized members of the Houston Texans for not putting their hands over their hearts during the national anthem.

Shockey says he saw "about 10 players" who didn't do the traditional gesture when the anthem is played, and he told some of them how he felt during Carolina's 28-13 victory.

"I was pretty upset in the way they weren't showing respect to America during the national anthem," Shockey said. "This is America and you should at least give respect to America."

Shockey's statements didn't make their way back to the Texans' locker room before it closed, and the team had no comment. Shockey's rant came in response to a reporter's question about the Texans' defense.

"This is America and this is just a game and they should not only be very proud of this country, but very gifted to be living here," Shockey said. "Maybe they just forgot to do it or something, but I don't see how you could forget to do that."

Shockey sports a red, white and blue tattoo on his right biceps portraying a bald eagle draped in an American flag. He caught a 9-yard touchdown pass from Cam Newton in Sunday's game, then pointed at linebacker DeMeco Ryans and appeared to yell at him and cornerback Jason Allen.
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Old 12-19-2011, 07:53 PM   #76
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Because isn't a satisfactory argument, that's why.
why isn't it?
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Old 12-19-2011, 07:54 PM   #77
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Old 12-19-2011, 07:54 PM   #78
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Old 12-19-2011, 08:06 PM   #79
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"they should not only be very proud of this country, but very gifted to be living here," Shockey said. .
Is he saying they aren't gifted BECAUSE they live here, or is he saying they should prove themselves gifted BEFORE allowed to live here?"

I'm confused.

Either way that sounds pretty Unpatriotic. Shame on you Jeremy.
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Old 12-19-2011, 08:06 PM   #80
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You have the freedom of speech to say that.
I have the freedom of speech to say;
**** you back.
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Thanks 4 nothing. Idk who sucks more the troops or Jeremy Shockey.
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Old 12-19-2011, 08:11 PM   #81
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Thanks 4 nothing. Idk who sucks more the troops or Jeremy Shockey.
that the best you got? I know you're trolling, but you suck at it...
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Old 12-19-2011, 08:22 PM   #82
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that the best you got? I know you're trolling, but you suck at it...
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Old 12-19-2011, 08:31 PM   #83
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You already said that. You reeruned, boy?
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Old 12-19-2011, 08:32 PM   #84
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How about freedoms we have here that do not exist in other countries?
There are several countries that have the exact same freedoms we do-- and in many cases they have MORE freedoms than we do
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Old 12-19-2011, 08:35 PM   #87
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Old 12-19-2011, 08:36 PM   #88
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Why does "because" not sound satisfying? You should be a good sibling, parent or child just "because" too. That's good enough for me.
Patriotism, in my view, should be grounded by your alignment with the ideas that your country espouses. It should never merely be a product of living in said country.

Me thinks there's a significant difference between loving one's country and loving one's child.
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I think being patriot became a big deal during the world wars, anyway - Hitler and ideas of world domination. Is it really so bad to believe in something that you'd risk your life for it? The American dream, etc is pretty corny but still true to an extent. How about freedoms we have here that do not exist in other countries?
What have you to say about people who don't believe America represents the freedom that their patriotism is rooted in?
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I'll start with one.

Canada.
Canada has high taxes, shitty socialized healthcare, does not allow foreign workers and mandates that radio stations play at least 33% Canadian artist.

They tax the shit out of alcohol and tobacco.

While they have the same basic "freedoms" its way more socialist.

The other countries you listed (besides Belize because I don't know) have much higher taxes as well.
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There are several countries that have the exact same freedoms we do-- and in many cases they have MORE freedoms than we do
Your free to move to any of those countries anytime.
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