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Old 12-18-2011, 03:42 PM  
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I owe Kyle Orton an apology...
and quite a few people here should be doling them out as well...

Leonard Pope? Big catches. Barry Richardson? Nice job.

Same cast of characters, same playcalling (McCluster up the middle, anyone?)...

Yet Orton has 300 yards passing in a game where we led the entire way.

Yeah, I wanted to see Stanzi play and I still do.

But thank you Kyle Orton for making it ABUNDANTLY clear how much of a waste Matt Cassel is...
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Old 12-19-2011, 05:46 PM   #211
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I wanted to post this but didn't want to start a thread. Kevin Kietzman is on the air just making stuff up to fit his argument. He's a Cassel backer and in trying to make Orton look like the wrong QB to go with, is saying he has Orton and Cassels career stat in front of him. He said they've started the same number of games,( Wrong! Orton has started 66, Cassel has started 54.) KK went on to say Cassel leads in almost every important category. The key word must be almost, because he's right, except for Orton has almost 3000 more passing yards and 3 more TD passes.

I know this isn't that big a deal, but Kietzman knows people can look this stuff up. Or does he?
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Old 12-19-2011, 06:10 PM   #212
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Why do people even bother looking at Orton's Chicago numbers...they aren't relevant at all.
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Old 12-19-2011, 06:26 PM   #213
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I wish Haley was still here, so that we could actually judge Orton in the same situation.

I have said ALL along, for a long time, that Cassel is average, Haley makes him and the entire offense less than average.

Either way, Crennel got more out of this team than Haley did all season.

I wanted Haley gone. I am fine with Cassel leaving. I just don't think that Orton is any better.
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Old 12-19-2011, 06:27 PM   #214
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Old 12-19-2011, 07:01 PM   #215
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Why do people even bother looking at Orton's Chicago numbers...they aren't relevant at all.

The poor guy had absolutely nothing to work with in Chicago, plus it's the least pass friendly conditioned stadium in the NFL
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Old 12-19-2011, 07:36 PM   #217
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Did Kyle:

I apologize for criticizing you for sitting out with a tweaked finger. You were right and should have taken more time to heal.

Now that you've played, thus showing that even a middle-of-the-road NFL starter is far more polished than Matt "Pioli is a ****ing idiot" Cassel, we're stuck with you. Now we'll go through the same types of arguments with True Fans (he needs O-line help, drops, schedule!!, play-calling) that we had with another lackluster started, Kr..Bo...Gr...Cassel.

But at least we got rid of Carl. I think.
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Old 12-19-2011, 07:57 PM   #218
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:17 PM   #219
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and quite a few people here should be doling them out as well...

Leonard Pope? Big catches. Barry Richardson? Nice job.

Same cast of characters, same playcalling (McCluster up the middle, anyone?)...

Yet Orton has 300 yards passing in a game where we led the entire way.

Yeah, I wanted to see Stanzi play and I still do.

But thank you Kyle Orton for making it ABUNDANTLY clear how much of a waste Matt Cassel is...


keep drinking the Koolaid brosef. All Orton will do for the chefs is insure you won't be drafting real QB talent in the 2012 draft.

You could have had RG3, but instead you get KNB.
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Did Kyle:

I apologize for criticizing you for sitting out with a tweaked finger. You were right and should have taken more time to heal.

Now that you've played, thus showing that even a middle-of-the-road NFL starter is far more polished than Matt "Pioli is a ****ing idiot" Cassel, we're stuck with you. Now we'll go through the same types of arguments with True Fans (he needs O-line help, drops, schedule!!, play-calling) that we had with another lackluster started, Kr..Bo...Gr...Cassel.

But at least we got rid of Carl. I think.
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:19 PM   #221
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I knew Orton would light it up. He did pretty well in Denver considering they had a crappy running game, and a defense that was absolutely terrible last year, and for the early part of this year.

He also has much better recievers to work with here vs what he had with denver. He was zipping the ball all over the place yesterday. And did anyone notice how he placed the ball to his recievers? Right in the numbers, or right where the reciever could catch it. That one long pass to Baldiwn (which he dropped) was placed perfectly for him to catch it.

Seeing Orton light it up never surprised me. I knew he was capable of it. It might be too early to say hes the QB for this team, but if he can perform at a high level like he did last sunday, he will go a long ways in proving that he is our man.

Lets not forget that he hasnt really played any meaningul snaps for the past several weeks going into this game. He looked quite impressive considering everything. He has some rust to shake off, but he looked better than Cassel ever has in his 3 years here.
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I knew Orton would light it up. He did pretty well in Denver considering they had a crappy running game, and a defense that was absolutely terrible last year, and for the early part of this year.

He also has much better recievers to work with here vs what he had with denver. He was zipping the ball all over the place yesterday. And did anyone notice how he placed the ball to his recievers? Right in the numbers, or right where the reciever could catch it. That one long pass to Baldiwn (which he dropped) was placed perfectly for him to catch it.

Seeing Orton light it up never surprised me. I knew he was capable of it. It might be too early to say hes the QB for this team, but if he can perform at a high level like he did last sunday, he will go a long ways in proving that he is our man.

Lets not forget that he hasnt really played any meaningul snaps for the past several weeks going into this game. He looked quite impressive considering everything. He has some rust to shake off, but he looked better than Cassel ever has in his 3 years here.
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