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Old 12-20-2011, 02:03 PM   #1
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It's the player, not the position.
He's not good enough to make it about "the player, not the position".

He's being projected right now between 1-25 and 1-30. We'll be picking much higher than that, even if we win out.
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Old 12-20-2011, 01:57 PM   #2
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I dont think Orton can be a top 5 quarterback, but with the weapons around him and this defense with Berry back, we can be a contender.
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Old 12-20-2011, 02:03 PM   #3
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I dont think Orton can be a top 5 quarterback, but with the weapons around him and this defense with Berry back, we can be a contender.
More of a contender with Orton than with Cassel.
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Old 12-20-2011, 02:13 PM   #4
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If the Chiefs win out, that puts them in a position to not draft a quarterback.

All those guys, Luck, Griffin III, and Barkley are going top 10.

The only guy that may be available is Tannehill.

I don't see the Chiefs trading up to try and get either Luck, Barkley, or Griffin III. It's just gonna involve too much compensation. Do they go with Tannehill if he falls to them? I don't know.

But one thing is for certain, and I may get bashed for saying this, they could use an offensive lineman. Wiegmann is old, Lilja could be replaced, Richardson needs to be shown the door because we all know he ain't even adequate enough.

Realistically, you have to think Oline. Its the reality and the nature of how things may be played out for this franchise. I think there will be some Olineman available when the Chiefs pick.

Sorry guys. Just being a realist here.
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Old 12-20-2011, 02:26 PM   #5
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If the Chiefs win out, that puts them in a position to not draft a quarterback.

All those guys, Luck, Griffin III, and Barkley are going top 10.

The only guy that may be available is Tannehill.

I don't see the Chiefs trading up to try and get either Luck, Barkley, or Griffin III. It's just gonna involve too much compensation. Do they go with Tannehill if he falls to them? I don't know.

But one thing is for certain, and I may get bashed for saying this, they could use an offensive lineman. Wiegmann is old, Lilja could be replaced, Richardson needs to be shown the door because we all know he ain't even adequate enough.

Realistically, you have to think Oline. Its the reality and the nature of how things may be played out for this franchise. I think there will be some Olineman available when the Chiefs pick.

Sorry guys. Just being a realist here.
But we could pick up Landry Jones!!!

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Old 12-20-2011, 02:44 PM   #6
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If the Chiefs win out, that puts them in a position to not draft a quarterback.

All those guys, Luck, Griffin III, and Barkley are going top 10.

The only guy that may be available is Tannehill.

I don't see the Chiefs trading up to try and get either Luck, Barkley, or Griffin III. It's just gonna involve too much compensation. Do they go with Tannehill if he falls to them? I don't know.

But one thing is for certain, and I may get bashed for saying this, they could use an offensive lineman. Wiegmann is old, Lilja could be replaced, Richardson needs to be shown the door because we all know he ain't even adequate enough.

Realistically, you have to think Oline. Its the reality and the nature of how things may be played out for this franchise. I think there will be some Olineman available when the Chiefs pick.

Sorry guys. Just being a realist here.
We need to have one of those lucky years where a guy like Aaron Rodgers plummets down the board and into our laps...
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Old 12-20-2011, 02:53 PM   #7
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We need to have one of those lucky years where a guy like Aaron Rodgers plummets down the board and into our laps...
We'll see.

But, Im not feeling too optmistic about it.

I think there are a lot of teams that will be picking before the Chiefs that are in need of Quarterbacks.

i.e, Miami, Cleveland, Washington, Indy, possibly Buffalo? QB's will be just to ripe for the picking.
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Old 12-20-2011, 02:55 PM   #8
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Anytime you can sign Steve DeOrton and get the play-action pass hitting on all cylinders, you simply have to take that shot.
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:07 PM   #9
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I wouldn't be against signing Orton as the vet. starter and drafting a QB. But if this organization does the former, I simply don't think they'll do the latter.

Too often, the organization jumps in with both feet when the smell of vet. backup wafts through the air.
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:28 PM   #10
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Orton has a way of fooling coaching staffs in the offseason. He is the best practice player in NFL history and plays great in the preseason. I wouldn't be surprised if the Chiefs get tricked into thinking Orton can be a longterm answer and then realize a year or two later they have been fooled.
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:26 PM   #11
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Orton has a way of fooling coaching staffs in the offseason. He is the best practice player in NFL history and plays great in the preseason. I wouldn't be surprised if the Chiefs get tricked into thinking Orton can be a longterm answer and then realize a year or two later they have been fooled.


This isn't what you said about Orton just last season.
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:15 PM   #12
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Orton is to the Chiefs what Gannon was to the Raiders. A journeyman that finally gets to the promised land!
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:17 PM   #13
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Orton is to the Chiefs what Gannon was to the Raiders. A journeyman that finally gets to the promised land!
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Orton is to the Chiefs what Gannon was to the Raiders. A journeyman that finally gets to the promised land!
I was thinking something similar. When the Chiefs are deciding whether to continue with Cassel or try to sign Orton, they're facing a similar dilemma as the one Carl Peterson faced with Gannon and Grbac. Gannon's contract was up so financially it made more sense to retain Grbac and let Gannon go just like it would be cheaper to keep Cassel than switch to Orton now. Going for the dollar-wise option hurt last time around.
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Of course, I don't think Cassel is as bad as Grbac and I don't think Orton is as good as Gannon, so the decision might not be as important to the Chiefs' near-future as it was then.
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