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htismaqe · 12-20-2011, 09:57 AM

The general consensus around here, even from those who felt Haley was far and away the biggest problem with the Chiefs, seems to be that Cassel is done in KC.

However, the overwhelming feeling that I'm hearing in both the national and local media is that Cassel will be the starter next season.

What say you?

Marcellus · 12-20-2011, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Its not an opinion...

Its nothing more than the Chiefs way...

To trade a player who is not even under contract?

Are we going to sign and trade him?

Come on dude, pay attention.

htismaqe · 12-20-2011, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tecumseh

A little premature to poll this. I'm with the "wait and see how Orton does in the last to games" group. I do think Cassel with be on the roster nest year though. This is a huge draft for Pioli.
If he can somehow bundle Cassel and picks for a high trade, then pick RGIII that would be capital to building success.

Not premature at all.

Schefter and Mort have been saying since before the Green Bay game that it didn't matter how well Orton plays, Cassel is coming back.

htismaqe · 12-20-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog_5

I thought this poll was voting for what you think the Chiefs WILL do not what they SHOULD do?

That's correct.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-20-2011, 11:06 AM

Firing Haley when they did made him the fall guy for this season. Cassel will return, and Orton will get a 3+ year deal from a team like Seattle.

**Mr. Kotter** · 12-20-2011, 11:07 AM

I hope I'm wrong, but unless we somehow move up in the draft to snag one of the top three QBs (or unless Manning were to end up in KC)....we are likely looking at one more chance for Cassel.

**Lzen** · 12-20-2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

What I hope will happen:

Sign Orton to a 1-2 year deal.
Draft a QB in the 1st round.
Go into next year with Orton, Stanzi and the rookie as our QBs.

What will probably happen:

Sign Orton to a 5 year deal.
Draft a RT in the 1st round.
Orton and Cassel have a cripple fight for the starting QB position.

I hope for scenario 1, but if you look at the positive, scenario 2 would still be much better than what we started with this season. I'm assuming, of course, that Orton would easily win that contest. That being said, I still want to see what we have in Stanzi.

Chiefnj2 · 12-20-2011, 11:08 AM

Orton isn't going to want to sign a 1 or 2 year deal.

**Mr. Kotter** · 12-20-2011, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

What I hope will happen:

Sign Orton to a 1-2 year deal.
Draft a QB in the 1st round.
Go into next year with Orton, Stanzi and the rookie as our QBs.

What will probably happen:

Sign Orton to a 5 year deal.
Draft a RT in the 1st round.
Orton and Cassel have a cripple fight for the starting QB position.

Exactly my thought.

KCFalcon59 · 12-20-2011, 11:10 AM

I have lost all faith that the Chiefs will do what needs to be done.

Beef Supreme · 12-20-2011, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

I hope I'm wrong, but unless we somehow move up in the draft to snag one of the top three QBs (or unless Manning were to end up in KC)....we are likely looking at one more chance for Cassel.

This is my worst nightmare, and all the more terrifying because of how possible it is.

**lewdog** · 12-20-2011, 11:16 AM

So the majority of people actually think the Chiefs WILL DO the right thing and not bring Cassel back as the starter? You obviously haven't watched this franchise for the past 20 years and its down right absurdity in loyalty to players and shitty QBs.

htismaqe · 12-20-2011, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Orton isn't going to want to sign a 1 or 2 year deal.

Yep.

**Lzen** · 12-20-2011, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog_5

I am in for Cassel coming back as the QB and for all the people who said "if Cassel is back I am switching teams" to get the **** off Chiefs Planet!

That's it! You, sir, can kiss that n00b of the year trophy goodbye!

**ShortRoundChief** · 12-20-2011, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

That's it! You, sir, can kiss that n00b of the year trophy goodbye!

No kidding.

In politics that statement would be the equivalent of punching a baby in the face on national tv.

Chief Faithful · 12-20-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog_5

So the majority of people actually think the Chiefs WILL DO the right thing and not bring Cassel back as the starter? You obviously haven't watched this franchise for the past 20 years and its down right absurdity in loyalty to players and shitty QBs.

One thing we can thank Clark Hunt, Scott Pioli and Todd Haley for is they cleaned house throughout Arrowhead. To predict what will happen based on the Peterson and Steadman years is to ignore everything that has happened the last 3 years. Clark Hunt and Scott Pioli are from a different school of thinking and would not think twice about canning Cassel if a better option presents itself. It would be no different than when Pioli and Belichick decided to keep Brady over Beldsoe.

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