Chiefs what's with all the Orton isn't the answer talk? - Page 8

wutamess · 12-20-2011, 08:30 AM

OK he has the same stats avg as Cassle. BS! My dad and I argue about the Cheifs as if we're Pioli and Haley. I told him 3 weeeks ago, "dude. We finally have our QB." He looked at me like I was crazy and borderline ignored me.

I tried explaining to him we finaly have a qb that can make all of the throws. All he could muster up was he wasn't shit in Denve and he wasn Shit in Chicago. I told him he had good stats lat yar and turned Brandn Lloyd into NFLs #1 wr last year. He wasn't buying it but my point was valid.

I further went to explain that now Orton had something he's NEVER had as far as weapons. Now he has 2 BIG WRs as well as a WR that will stretch the field. Add JC and Moeki coming back next year and I think we can be a top 5 offense with Orton.

I just don't understand why people think he's a fluke ad try to compare him to Cassle when he's HEAD AND SHOULDERS above Cassel in EVERY category. I'll go so far as to say we don't need to draft qb this year if we sign Orton... I'm als thinking with Berry coming back and a O tackle and another stud LB to complement DJ, we're poised for a SUPERBOWL RUN!

chiefscafan · 12-20-2011, 12:24 PM

Personally I draft Hightower ILB from Bama first get OT in second

Draft a QB third round

Sign a young NT FA, OG, S, TE

Resign Orton, CARR, BOwe, MCClain

Trade Cassel for whatever

That's my offseason

DaWolf · 12-20-2011, 12:25 PM

Orton's not the answer and I'm expecting a stinker from him any day now.

If we're just looking for a three year answer while we look to find a successor in a year or two, why not just go all in and go get Manning, assuming he forces the Colts hand?

http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbsspor...75988/33964169

**DaKCMan AP** · 12-20-2011, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan

Personally I draft Hightower ILB from Bama first get OT in second

Draft a QB third round

Sign a young NT FA, OG, S, TE

Resign Orton, CARR, BOwe, MCClain

Trade Cassel for whatever

That's my offseason

This year you can likely get a quality OT in rd 3 or 4.

Cassel, especially with his contract, has no trade value. Just cut his ass.

**alpha_omega** · 12-20-2011, 12:33 PM

Better than Mark Castle....absolutely!

QBOTF....absolutely NOT!

Chief Faithful · 12-20-2011, 12:37 PM

The issue with Orton has always been consistency. He can make all the throws, spreads the ball well and has good leadership qualities on the field. The problem sometimes he just turns stoopid. While he has had good former QB coaches as Head Coaches (McBust) he has never had a good QB coach and good receivers, which the Chiefs have both. If he can develop some consistency I believe Orton will be a very good QB.

Didn't Orton start as a rookie over Grossman in Chicago?

Okie_Apparition · 12-20-2011, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Shox

Giving away draft picks to move up when you still have holes to fill for a QB who might be Ryan Leaf, David Carr, etc etc is stupid.

If we had the Oline fixed, a nose tackle, ILB, another pass rusher and a RB to complement Charles. Sure give all our picks to get one of the top 2 QBs....but we don't.

Sign Orton to a 2-3 year deal and keep looking for the next Tom Brady later in draft. Orton is still young and seems to still be improving. He will make us a playoff caliber team at the worst and who knows he might be a Gannon or Simms type QB and get to a superbowl.

Oh My
I'd better pop some corn

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-20-2011, 12:43 PM

Why draft a QB when we can pick up a RT, NT, sign Orton and be ready for a Super Bowl run?

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-20-2011, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Why draft a QB when we can pick up a RT, NT, sign Orton and be ready for a Super Bowl run?

Worked in his Madden 'chise

chiefscafan · 12-20-2011, 12:48 PM

Lol I think it's funny people want to trade for manning the dude has a broken neck??? Um he might be done. No probably is done.

Mr. Laz · 12-20-2011, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega

There's a reason Broncos fans hated him.

Pressure mostly turns him into a puddle of goo.

you do realize that pressure turns most QB's into a puddle of goo?

htismaqe · 12-20-2011, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefscafan

Personally I draft Hightower ILB from Bama first get OT in second

Draft a QB third round

Sign a young NT FA, OG, S, TE

Resign Orton, CARR, BOwe, MCClain

Trade Cassel for whatever

That's my offseason

With all the needs this team has, you draft an ILB in the first?

WTF

chiefscafan · 12-20-2011, 12:49 PM

DaKCman

What is the hit if we cut cassel??

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-20-2011, 12:49 PM

Chiefs fans will do anything to rationalize avoiding having to draft and develop a first round QB.

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-20-2011, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

With all the needs this team has, you draft an ILB in the first?

WTF

Keep ****ing doubting Jovan Belcher

KC_Lee · 12-20-2011, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Chiefs fans will do anything to rationalize avoiding having to draft and develop a first round QB.

And that's just sad....

12-20-2011, 08:30 AM
wutamess MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Lee's Summit Casino cash: $4711637	what's with all the Orton isn't the answer talk? OK he has the same stats avg as Cassle. BS! My dad and I argue about the Cheifs as if we're Pioli and Haley. I told him 3 weeeks ago, "dude. We finally have our QB." He looked at me like I was crazy and borderline ignored me. I tried explaining to him we finaly have a qb that can make all of the throws. All he could muster up was he wasn't shit in Denve and he wasn Shit in Chicago. I told him he had good stats lat yar and turned Brandn Lloyd into NFLs #1 wr last year. He wasn't buying it but my point was valid. I further went to explain that now Orton had something he's NEVER had as far as weapons. Now he has 2 BIG WRs as well as a WR that will stretch the field. Add JC and Moeki coming back next year and I think we can be a top 5 offense with Orton. I just don't understand why people think he's a fluke ad try to compare him to Cassle when he's HEAD AND SHOULDERS above Cassel in EVERY category. I'll go so far as to say we don't need to draft qb this year if we sign Orton... I'm als thinking with Berry coming back and a O tackle and another stud LB to complement DJ, we're poised for a SUPERBOWL RUN!
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12-20-2011, 12:24 PM	#106
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	Personally I draft Hightower ILB from Bama first get OT in second Draft a QB third round Sign a young NT FA, OG, S, TE Resign Orton, CARR, BOwe, MCClain Trade Cassel for whatever That's my offseason
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12-20-2011, 12:25 PM	#107
DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	Orton's not the answer and I'm expecting a stinker from him any day now. If we're just looking for a three year answer while we look to find a successor in a year or two, why not just go all in and go get Manning, assuming he forces the Colts hand? http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbsspor...75988/33964169
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12-20-2011, 12:33 PM	#109
alpha_omega Supporter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Liberty Casino cash: $-1780000	Better than Mark Castle....absolutely! QBOTF....absolutely NOT!
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12-20-2011, 12:37 PM	#110
Chief Faithful Predicting Chiefs Victory Join Date: Sep 2001 Casino cash: $9966500	The issue with Orton has always been consistency. He can make all the throws, spreads the ball well and has good leadership qualities on the field. The problem sometimes he just turns stoopid. While he has had good former QB coaches as Head Coaches (McBust) he has never had a good QB coach and good receivers, which the Chiefs have both. If he can develop some consistency I believe Orton will be a very good QB. Didn't Orton start as a rookie over Grossman in Chicago?
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12-20-2011, 12:43 PM	#112
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7139572	Why draft a QB when we can pick up a RT, NT, sign Orton and be ready for a Super Bowl run? __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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12-20-2011, 12:48 PM	#114
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	Lol I think it's funny people want to trade for manning the dude has a broken neck??? Um he might be done. No probably is done.
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12-20-2011, 12:49 PM	#117
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	DaKCman What is the hit if we cut cassel??
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12-20-2011, 12:49 PM	#118
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7139572	Chiefs fans will do anything to rationalize avoiding having to draft and develop a first round QB. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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