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Old 12-20-2011, 08:30 AM  
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what's with all the Orton isn't the answer talk?

OK he has the same stats avg as Cassle. BS! My dad and I argue about the Cheifs as if we're Pioli and Haley. I told him 3 weeeks ago, "dude. We finally have our QB." He looked at me like I was crazy and borderline ignored me.

I tried explaining to him we finaly have a qb that can make all of the throws. All he could muster up was he wasn't shit in Denve and he wasn Shit in Chicago. I told him he had good stats lat yar and turned Brandn Lloyd into NFLs #1 wr last year. He wasn't buying it but my point was valid.

I further went to explain that now Orton had something he's NEVER had as far as weapons. Now he has 2 BIG WRs as well as a WR that will stretch the field. Add JC and Moeki coming back next year and I think we can be a top 5 offense with Orton.

I just don't understand why people think he's a fluke ad try to compare him to Cassle when he's HEAD AND SHOULDERS above Cassel in EVERY category. I'll go so far as to say we don't need to draft qb this year if we sign Orton... I'm als thinking with Berry coming back and a O tackle and another stud LB to complement DJ, we're poised for a SUPERBOWL RUN!
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Old 12-20-2011, 02:53 PM   #151
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We need to have one of those lucky years where a guy like Aaron Rodgers plummets down the board and into our laps...
We'll see.

But, Im not feeling too optmistic about it.

I think there are a lot of teams that will be picking before the Chiefs that are in need of Quarterbacks.

i.e, Miami, Cleveland, Washington, Indy, possibly Buffalo? QB's will be just to ripe for the picking.
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Old 12-20-2011, 02:55 PM   #152
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Anytime you can sign Steve DeOrton and get the play-action pass hitting on all cylinders, you simply have to take that shot.
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:03 PM   #153
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you do realize that pressure turns most QB's into a puddle of goo?
Pressure turned the best QB in the league [yes, I said it, best] into a puddle of goo in Arrowhead last Sunday.

That's one of the things about NFL football I love best, watching an 'unstoppable' QB get rattled when the pressure comes and the WRs get blanket covered and then, heaven forbid, the INT. Suddenly, not so unstoppable. We used to do it all the time in the 90s. Did it numerous times against Manning and Rivers more recently. Love it.
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:05 PM   #154
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Chiefs fans will do anything to rationalize avoiding having to draft and develop a first round QB.
Nobody's [at least not the OVERWHELMING majority] doing that. At most they're saying that's not the ONLY thing to do.

But then, as we know, your analysis of the NFL has turned into one big 'OR Gate.'
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:07 PM   #155
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I wouldn't be against signing Orton as the vet. starter and drafting a QB. But if this organization does the former, I simply don't think they'll do the latter.

Too often, the organization jumps in with both feet when the smell of vet. backup wafts through the air.
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:10 PM   #156
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:10 PM   #157
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Didn't Orton start as a rookie over Grossman in
Chicago?
Yes... Rich Gannonesque... He spelled an injured Grossman... Played well and Marty let Grbac... er Grossman back in for the playoffs. The fans believe they could've went to the SB if Orton was the QB instead of Grossman.

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Old 12-20-2011, 03:23 PM   #158
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I re-watched the DirecTV 30 minute condensed game and Kyle Orton's performance was the first time since Trent Green that we've had a quarterback who could read the defense and make the throw. I don't know how good Orton can be, but he reminded me of Trent Green even more the second time I watched the game. He's certainly good enough to be our starter while we groom an early pick.

Kyle Orton is on a completely different level than Matt Cassel.
I couldn't agree more. I really think Orton could put up better numbers than ever, with the weapons we have and if everyone is healthy next year. Something he has never had.
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:28 PM   #159
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I couldn't agree more. I really think Orton could put up better numbers than ever, with the weapons we have and if everyone is healthy next year. Something he has never had.
In one game after only being here two weeks, Orton has looked better than Cassel EVER has or ever will. TWO WEEKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Old 12-20-2011, 03:28 PM   #160
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Orton has a way of fooling coaching staffs in the offseason. He is the best practice player in NFL history and plays great in the preseason. I wouldn't be surprised if the Chiefs get tricked into thinking Orton can be a longterm answer and then realize a year or two later they have been fooled.
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:31 PM   #161
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Pressure turned the best QB in the league [yes, I said it, best] into a puddle of goo in Arrowhead last Sunday.
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Actually, it didn't.

The Packers dropped SEVEN PASSES in the first half ALONE.
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Actually, it didn't.

The Packers dropped SEVEN PASSES in the first half ALONE.
The majority of the pressure came in the second half.
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