Dexter McCluster Countdown Thread

[Reerun_KC]

Well since GoPlagerism is touting my post in is signature, I figured I would start a countdown thread to see how we stack up on the touches..


So I predicted somewhere between 125-140* touches this year, with a high as 175 (which might be too high).


Week 1
Rushing 4 for 42
Receiving 5 for 25

Week 2
Rushing 8 for 51
Receiving 4 for -2

Week 3
Rushing 9 for 45
Receiving 5 for 17

Week 4
Rushing 7 for 26
Receiving 3 for 12

Week 5
Rushing 4 for 8
Receiving 1 for 10

Week 6
BYE

Week 7
Rushing 10 for 38
Receiving 1 for -3

Week 8
Rushing 6 for 0
Receiving 3 for 28

Week 9
Rushing 7 for 36
Receiving 1 for 8

Week 10
Rushing 8 for 45
Receiving 6 for 48

Week 11
Rushing 8 for 39
Receiving 2 for 9

Week 12
Rushing 9 for 28
Receiving 2 for 11

Week 13
Rushing 9 for 61
Receiving 4 for 46 / 1 TD

Week 14
Rushing 4 for 1
Receiving 0 for 0

Week 15
Rushing 5 for 14
Receiving 2 for 11

Week 16
Rushing 3 for 15
Receiving 5 for 89

Week 17
Rushing 12 for 61 1 TD
Receiving 3 for 25

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Sproils.

Darren Sproles.

[BossChief]

Dexter has 654 yards of yards from scrimmage this year.

Sproles averages 618 yards from scrimmage per year.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Dexter has 654 yards of yards from scrimmage this year.

Sproles averages 618 yards from scrimmage per year.

Come on, man.

Sproles is averaging 7.5 yards per touch this year.

Dexter is doing good not fumbling but 4.7 yards per touch isn't impressive.

Looking at Sproles last four years, Dexter doesn't even come close to his per touch average.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by Omega

Come on, man.

Sproles is averaging 7.5 yards per touch this year.

Dexter is doing good not fumbling but 4.7 yards per touch isn't impressive.

Looking at Sproles last four years, Dexter doesn't even come close to his per touch average.

Switching the two players and they would be intertwined that Sproles would look dismal here and McCluster would find success there. Better coaching & better QB play.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Omega

Come on, man.

Sproles is averaging 7.5 yards per touch this year.

Dexter is doing good not fumbling but 4.7 yards per touch isn't impressive.

Looking at Sproles last four years, Dexter doesn't even come close to his per touch average.

you cant fairly compare yards per touch to gadget players on offenses with such a drastic difference in quarterback play and offensive design.

Im the first to say Dexter isnt as good as Sproles, but to use that as a reason isnt really fair.

I think they are somewhat similar players in what they give to their offense.

Sproles only had 255 yards in his first two years and only averaged 4.4 YPA while Dexter has had 934 and averaged 5.3....sometimes it takes a coaching staff some time to learn to utilize a guy like that.

There is a role in a good NFL offense for a guy like McCluster...the question will always be was it worth passing on a 2 down run stuffer (with big weight issues, ironically) or a really good tight end (who had legit concerns if his back would ever allow him to have a good NFL career) among other options at that spot.

[pr_capone]

Originally Posted by Omega

Garbage.

Special teams touches are not offensive touches.

I wouldn't be stupid enough to take a bet where potentially 60+ touches could come from special teams.

Everyone that is surprised that Wendler is mincing words to get out of a bet... raise your hand.

[DaKCMan AP]

From the NFL rule book:

Section 35 Team A and B, Offense and Defense
OFFENSE AND DEFENSE
Article 1Whenever a team is in possession (3-2-7), it is the Offense and, at such time, its opponent is the
Defense.
TEAM A AND TEAM B
Article 2The team that puts the ball in play is Team A, and its opponent is Team B. For brevity, a player of
Team A is referred to as A1 and his teammates as A2, A3, etc. Opponents are B1, B2, etc.
OFFICIAL NFL PLAYING RULES 13Note: A team becomes Team A when it has been designated to put ball in play, and it remains Team A until a
down ends, even though there might be one or more changes of possession during the down. This is in
contrast with the terms Offense and Defense. Team A is always the offense when a down starts, but
becomes the defense if and when B secures possession during the down, and vice versa for each change
of possession.
Article 3A change of possession occurs when a player of the defensive team secures possession of a ball
that has been kicked, passed, or fumbled by a player of the offensive team, or when the ball is awarded to
the opposing team by rule. A change of possession includes but is not limited to:
(a) an interception of a forward pass; or
(b) a catch or recovery of a fumble or backward pass; or
(c) a catch or recovery of a Scrimmage Kick, Free Kick, or Fair Catch Kick.
(d) when the offensive team fails to reach the line to gain on fourth down.
(e) when the offensive team misses a field-goal attempt

http://static.nfl.com/static/content...efinitions.pdf

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Quarterback be damned this season.


I still like McCluster and glad he is a Chief.

He hasn't quite done the things I have expected of him to do, but he has done fairly good with what he had at QB running the offense this season.

I do think that with a healthy dose of JC, McCluster can bring an extra jolt to the offense with a defense that has been chasing down JC. We havn't had that this year it's been a different game with just a sludge running attack.

McCluster has proven through the course of the year that he can hold his own for his little body.

IMO. We could have switched McCluster with Sproles from NO & McCluster would have had a better or just as productive outing as Spoles did there. Like wise if we had Darren Sproles he would have had struggled the same as Sproils has here. New O' leans has better coaching, 100X the quarterback & I'm sure McCluster would have had success doing what ever was asked of him like Sproils.

I don't much care what Sproles did his first two years, but I will have to argue that McCluster is nothing compared to what Sproles is RIGHT NOW (he may get there, he may not). But right now, Sproles is in a different universe than McCluster.

I'll stay out of the argument of whether McCluster is worth a shit for the time being, but Sproles' burst is much faster than McCluster's. McCluster has good speed, but he's not nearly as explosive.

McCluster doesn't change direction nearly as fast as Sproles. He's not bad, but Sproles is amazing.

McCluster doesn't have nearly the vision that Sproles does. Sproles had that shit all the way back to KState. His whole damn career he's always been able to find the holes and seams. That's why he appears to be so wide open every damn play. McCluster doesn't have that.

McCluster isn't nearly as stout. Particularly when he gets out on CBs and safeties, Sproles can go through somebody. Sometimes McCluster tries, but I don't recall him ever doing it.

One can say with relative certainty that McCluster would have more success in Payton's (sp?) offense, but he's not Sproles.

[Reerun_KC]

I think Buehler_445 has some Sproles on his chin....

you need a towel?

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

I think Buehler_445 has some Sproles on his chin....

you need a towel?

Nah. I'm cool.

Sproles is a damn good football player. McCluster isn't there. Maybe he'll get there but he's not there yet. And saying McCluster=Sproles is just asinine.

But if you wanted to see some dudes with Sproles on their chin, you should have been in this part of the world when Sproles was at KState. The KSU fans out here were just . This place was damn near unbearable. If you didn't know better, Sproles won 6 championships, 4 Heisman's, slayed a dragon and cured cancer.

What's funny is that they couldn't see that (slightly younger) Old Ballz couldn't trot a QB that was worth shooting out there to help him out or they would have done something.

[BossChief]

I think McCluster wins the bet for me without the touches from kickoff returns, but does anyone think they shouldn't be counted besides GoChiefs?

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I think McCluster wins the bet for me without the touches from kickoff returns, but does anyone think they shouldn't be counted besides GoChiefs?

I would not count them for the simple fact that the offense is not on the field.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I worded that with that intent in mind, actually.

Didnt want to be obvious about it, though.

With kick returns included, I have already won our bet as he would already have 161 "offensive touches" and that is over 10/game.

If you meant that....then why didn't you specifically state that?

Personally it sounds to me like you're stating that now after GoChiefs balked.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by jd1020

I would not count them for the simple fact that the offense is not on the field.

Was the bet touches or offensive touches? I don't know. Makes a difference.

[jd1020]

I have a feeling McCluster will rack up quite a bit of touches against the Raiders. I doubt our interior running game is going to be as successful against the Raiders as it was against the Packers.