Zorn was the one calling plays against GB

[KCBOSS1]

I'm wandering if Haley was just over involved with the playcalling, changing plays, messing up the flow of the game, etc. He may just have confused everything and not really have given any real authority to Muir. Maybe we should just observe for a couple of weeks to see if the flow of the game, the aggression of the play calling and everything stays as efficient as it was Sunday. But both Crennel and Orton alluded to "Bill" calling a good game.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by KCBOSS1

I'm wandering if Haley was just over involved with the playcalling, changing plays, messing up the flow of the game, etc. He may just have confused everything and not really have given any real authority to Muir. Maybe we should just observe for a couple of weeks to see if the flow of the game, the aggression of the play calling and everything stays as efficient as it was Sunday. But both Crennel and Orton alluded to "Bill" calling a good game.

I wander when I wonder, too, bro.

[chop]

I am inclined to believe the difference in last weeks game was with the QB play. I'm not a big fan of Orton but he played a pretty good game (not great) and, for the most part, got the receivers the ball. When the QB is not over throwing his recievers it tends to help keep drives alive thus making the coaches look better.

[FAX]

Actually, it would have been somewhat humoristic if Crennel sent Muir up to the box with nothing to do.

FAX

[TimeForWasp]

Originally Posted by FAX

Actually, it would have been somewhat humoristic if Crennel sent Muir up to the box with nothing to do.

FAX

Haley adjusted Muirs mic. Crennel just turned it off and let Muirs mouth move in silence.

[DeezNutz]

Oh, and Haley is either A.) the biggest pussy bitch ever to coach in the NFL (given that he was obviously tanking games) or B.) the biggest farce of an offensive genious in NFL history (read: created by Warner and Fitz).

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Oh, and Haley is either A.) the biggest pussy bitch ever to coach in the NFL (given that he was obviously tanking games) or B.) the biggest farce of an offensive genious in NFL history (read: created by Warner and Fitz).

Or he got "Casseled"

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Or he got "Casseled"

Cassel sucks shit; it would take an act of impressive obliviousness to argue otherwise, but Haley was still the one extracting prime shit juice from a three-month-old turd, marinated in a "well-devised" training program.

Face it, Haley is an OC at best. At ****ing best. More than likely he's a glorified water boy on a SB winning team--he'd be the one working on the players' short game.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Cassel sucks shit; it would take an act of impressive obliviousness to argue otherwise, but Haley was still the one extracting prime shit juice from a three-month-old turd, marinated in a "well-devised" training program.

Face it, Haley is an OC at best. At ****ing best. More than likely he's a glorified water boy on a SB winning team--he'd be the one working on the players' short game.

We will never see eye to eye on this point.

I see a long list of players that wanted to play for him and respect him that goes way back. A guy that Kurt Warner credited with running an offense that redirected his career and got him back to another superbowl.

We have a team that has been developing every drop of talent it has to the absolute fullest.

I will ALWAYS think that Haley got a raw deal in getting fired in an unsinkable situation.

Pioli let Shaun Smith leave.
Moeaki, Berry Charles.
Handcuffing to Cassel is like tossing a guy in the ocean with a 50 pound lead weight strapped to each foot and then telling everyone it was his fault he drowned. "he should have swam harder"

Give Haley those three back and even an average quarterback like Orton to start the year and how many wins would we have right now?

That's a legit question.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Give Haley those three back and even an average quarterback like Orton to start the year and how many wins would we have right now?

That's a legit question.

Less than we'd have with a competent HC. 4-8-28. Never forget.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BossChief

We will never see eye to eye on this point.

I see a long list of players that wanted to play for him and respect him that goes way back. A guy that Kurt Warner credited with running an offense that redirected his career and got him back to another superbowl.

We have a team that has been developing every drop of talent it has to the absolute fullest.

I will ALWAYS think that Haley got a raw deal in getting fired in an unsinkable situation.

Pioli let Shaun Smith leave.
Moeaki, Berry Charles.
Handcuffing to Cassel is like tossing a guy in the ocean with a 50 pound lead weight strapped to each foot and then telling everyone it was his fault he drowned. "he should have swam harder"

Give Haley those three back and even an average quarterback like Orton to start the year and how many wins would we have right now?

That's a legit question.

Fully agree. I think its sounding like Haley made some mistakes. But he brought discipline to a team who had none and coached up the crappy talent he had.

I still wonder how he fares with a gm that isn't an egotistical prick.

As for offensive guru... I still think he built a conservative offense because of the qb.

I don't know what his upside was. But I think it's a bit unfair to criticize him because he couldnt build a team around cassel.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Or he got "Casseled"

Yeah Cassel made him play Palko. Dumbass.

[FAX]

... or C) Another piteous victim of Dr. Evil's nefarious ways.

FAX

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by FAX

... or C) Another piteous victim of Dr. Evil's nefarious ways.

FAX

This would assume that the fool knows what he's doing in any capacity.

Haley was a joke, but Pioli is a ****ing travesty.

The truth is, none of us care who calls the plays as long as they work.