Chiefs what's with all the Orton isn't the answer talk? - Page 33

wutamess · 12-20-2011, 08:30 AM

OK he has the same stats avg as Cassle. BS! My dad and I argue about the Cheifs as if we're Pioli and Haley. I told him 3 weeeks ago, "dude. We finally have our QB." He looked at me like I was crazy and borderline ignored me.

I tried explaining to him we finaly have a qb that can make all of the throws. All he could muster up was he wasn't shit in Denve and he wasn Shit in Chicago. I told him he had good stats lat yar and turned Brandn Lloyd into NFLs #1 wr last year. He wasn't buying it but my point was valid.

I further went to explain that now Orton had something he's NEVER had as far as weapons. Now he has 2 BIG WRs as well as a WR that will stretch the field. Add JC and Moeki coming back next year and I think we can be a top 5 offense with Orton.

I just don't understand why people think he's a fluke ad try to compare him to Cassle when he's HEAD AND SHOULDERS above Cassel in EVERY category. I'll go so far as to say we don't need to draft qb this year if we sign Orton... I'm als thinking with Berry coming back and a O tackle and another stud LB to complement DJ, we're poised for a SUPERBOWL RUN!

lcarus · 12-24-2011, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

While I agree that Orton is a mediocre QB, and not the answer at QB for this team, this game was lost because the idiots in charge think that TwoYardTJ is the man to give the ball to in the red zone.

I agree. Even with the two HORRID interceptions he threw today that cost us dearly, I still like him way better than Cassel. I feel like we have a shot to get a drive put together every time we have the ball. That feeling will increase once we get Charles and Moeaki back, along with getting some OL help.

We should definitely do everything in our power to get a QB in the draft, but if we MUST stick with Orton or Cassel for a year...I hope it's Orton.

Hammock Parties · 12-24-2011, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

I feel like we have a shot to get a drive put together every time we have the ball.

Yeah, I agree.

I also feel like anytime the protection breaks down, the play is pretty much over.

I hate quarterbacks with lead feet.

A more mobile QB turns those awful intentional groundings into something.

BillSelfsTrophycase · 12-24-2011, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by milkshock

cassel may even be better than orton

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Originally Posted by Omega

Orton has two 300-yard games in two starts....

Cassel has three 300-yard games in his entire KC career.

Orton is not the answer, but he's miles ahead of Cassel

CrazyHorse · 12-24-2011, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

A meaningless footnote.

Your right. Being the best o line in the game shouldn't be the goal for an OL. Instead he should also be what........ a policeman?

Here's a footnote. Everything I spoke about last week was proven this week. Leaving many of you holding your collective pricks on the subject.

milkman · 12-24-2011, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Your right. Being the best o line in the game shouldn't be the goal for an OL. Instead he should also be what........ a policeman?

Here's a footnote. Everything I spoke about last week was proven this week. Leaving many of you holding your collective pricks on the subject.

No, not everything you talked about was proven.

Not a damn thing you talked about was proven.

Orton was pressured a handful of times today.

Hammock Parties · 12-24-2011, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Here's a footnote. Everything I spoke about last week was proven this week. Leaving many of you holding your collective pricks on the subject.

We had over 400 yards of offense, and you want to act like you were right about the offensive line?

Bullshit.

The OL was fine. Not perfect, but they played well enough to win.

Orton screwed the pooch twice, and our FG team screwed it twice more. And Bowe also ****ed that dog. That's 12 points, minimum, we left on the field, and 16 if Bowe catches the ball.

CrazyHorse · 12-24-2011, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega

We had over 400 yards of offense, and you want to act like you were right about the offensive line?

Bullshit.

The OL was fine. Not perfect, but they played well enough to win.

Orton screwed the pooch twice, and our FG team screwed it twice more. And Bowe also ****ed that dog. That's 12 points, minimum, we left on the field, and 16 if Bowe catches the ball.

So you hold everyone accountable but the o line (who had a shit load of penalties as well)?

How selective.

whoman69 · 12-24-2011, 08:47 PM

Orton may not be the answer, but he's a better answer than Cassel. He can at least be the response until the answer is found.

Hammock Parties · 12-24-2011, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

So you hold everyone accountable but the o line (who had a shit load of penalties as well)?

How selective.

I'll hold the OL accountable when they are the reason for the loss, i.e. games like Denver earlier this year and Oakland last year.

They played well enough to win today. You don't rack up 400+ yards without solid OL play.

boogblaster · 12-24-2011, 08:51 PM

no to Orton .. but he's all we got ... until we see what Stanzi can do .......

threebag · 12-24-2011, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Running battle or Jones is an embarrassment at any point during a game.

That 4th down play was garbage.

mecca?

Brock · 12-24-2011, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Your right. Being the best o line in the game shouldn't be the goal for an OL. Instead he should also be what........ a policeman?

Here's a footnote. Everything I spoke about last week was proven this week. Leaving many of you holding your collective pricks on the subject.

Since I haven't paid attention to everything you spoke about last week, I don't know what you think was proven this week. You aren't that important.

As to your first paragraph, having the best OL in the league and the highest scoring offense in the league, and the best running game in the league, and whatever other laurels seem to be so important to you didn't mean a goddamn thing. Nothing at all, unless NFL films wants to do a "Missing Rings" documentary about it. There isn't a single player on those teams that wouldn't trade every single offensive record achieved for a championship, or a playoff win for that matter.

CrazyHorse · 12-24-2011, 09:45 PM

So.......should they stop trying to be the best at thier job then?

I cant find where I said it was better than a championship.

Hammock Parties · 12-24-2011, 09:47 PM

Crazyhorse was ashamed of his post.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-24-2011, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69

Orton may not be the answer, but he's a better answer than Cassel. He can at least be the response until the answer is found.

Agreed.

12-20-2011, 08:30 AM
wutamess MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Lee's Summit Casino cash: $4711637	what's with all the Orton isn't the answer talk? OK he has the same stats avg as Cassle. BS! My dad and I argue about the Cheifs as if we're Pioli and Haley. I told him 3 weeeks ago, "dude. We finally have our QB." He looked at me like I was crazy and borderline ignored me. I tried explaining to him we finaly have a qb that can make all of the throws. All he could muster up was he wasn't shit in Denve and he wasn Shit in Chicago. I told him he had good stats lat yar and turned Brandn Lloyd into NFLs #1 wr last year. He wasn't buying it but my point was valid. I further went to explain that now Orton had something he's NEVER had as far as weapons. Now he has 2 BIG WRs as well as a WR that will stretch the field. Add JC and Moeki coming back next year and I think we can be a top 5 offense with Orton. I just don't understand why people think he's a fluke ad try to compare him to Cassle when he's HEAD AND SHOULDERS above Cassel in EVERY category. I'll go so far as to say we don't need to draft qb this year if we sign Orton... I'm als thinking with Berry coming back and a O tackle and another stud LB to complement DJ, we're poised for a SUPERBOWL RUN!
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