Mellinger: Chiefs need to make fixes, but not at head coach

[Dexter Manley]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Pioli will get his yes man, and we'll be stuck with a giant turd at QB.

Unless Chiefs fans DEMAND Pioli gets FIRED for doing a terrible job here...

[Messier]

Originally Posted by Dexter Manley

Unless Chiefs fans DEMAND Pioli gets FIRED for doing a terrible job here...

How do fans "demand" Pioli be fired? Pioli will be fired when and if the next coach doesn't. Work out.

[Dexter Manley]

Originally Posted by Messier

How do fans "demand" Pioli be fired? Pioli will be fired when and if the next coach doesn't. Work out.

Ah shut up and get back to hockey...


Chiefs have season ticket holders. They need to tell the Hunts that Pioli had his chance and doesn't deserve another season as Chiefs GM...

[Messier]

Originally Posted by Dexter Manley

Ah shut up and get back to hockey...


Chiefs have season ticket holders. They need to tell the Hunts that Pioli had his chance and doesn't deserve another season as Chiefs GM...

The fans don't Have power to tell Clark to fire GMs. Not renewing season tickets won't make Hunt say, It must be Pioli! I've got to get rid of him, fast! The chiefs need to be bad for awhile under Pioli for a move to be made.

Messier doesn't stand for Mark.

[Shox]

Originally Posted by Dexter Manley

Ah shut up and get back to hockey...

Have Chiefs have season ticket holders. They need to tell the Hunts that Pioli had his chance and doesn't deserve another season as Chiefs GM...

I'm a season ticket holder, I DON't want Pioli gone. You don't build a winning football franchise by replacing GMs every 3rd season. Pioli has not done an amazing job, but he has not been nearly as bad as many on the Planet rant about.

Give him credit he canned a horrible hire in Haley in the middle of the season. Most would not make such a move. He had a solid drafts with the exception of his first, where he went to work very late in process. He has made some solid FA signings.....Breaston & Siler.
He has hired some good coaches (except Hali), Crennel DC, Weiss OC, Thomas DBs.


I really see 3 significant errors; 1. Hiring Haley. 2. Leting Haley go with Muir as defacto OC. 3. Jackson with his 1st pick, he was a huge reach.

Many would say Cassell is a huge mistake. I don't think so. Cassell looked like he might be a quality QB the season he played for the Partiots. He was acquired for the right price and it just did not pan out. It happens all the time in the NFL. The mistake will be if they bring him back.

I'm probably in the minority, but I think Pioli has done a solid job. Not a miracle worker, but a solid job. Give him a B. However, if he does not move on let the Cassel era end then he will quickly turn the B into an F.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Shox

IGive him credit he canned a horrible hire in Haley in the middle of the season.

Why would I give him credit for a move that could have been (and most likely was) completely self-serving?

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Why would I give him credit for a move that could have been (and most likely was) completely self-serving?

The signing of Orton and firing of Haley gave KC a legit shot at making the playoffs.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

The signing of Orton and firing of Haley gave KC a legit shot at making the playoffs.

They beat a team they shouldn't have and lost to a team they shouldn't have.

They didn't have a legit shot at jack shit.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Shox

I'm a season ticket holder, I DON't want Pioli gone. You don't build a winning football franchise by replacing GMs every 3rd season. Pioli has not done an amazing job, but he has not been nearly as bad as many on the Planet rant about.

Give him credit he canned a horrible hire in Haley in the middle of the season. Most would not make such a move. He had a solid drafts with the exception of his first, where he went to work very late in process. He has made some solid FA signings.....Breaston & Siler.
He has hired some good coaches (except Hali), Crennel DC, Weiss OC, Thomas DBs.


I really see 3 significant errors; 1. Hiring Haley. 2. Leting Haley go with Muir as defacto OC. 3. Jackson with his 1st pick, he was a huge reach.

Many would say Cassell is a huge mistake. I don't think so. Cassell looked like he might be a quality QB the season he played for the Partiots. He was acquired for the right price and it just did not pan out. It happens all the time in the NFL. The mistake will be if they bring him back.

I'm probably in the minority, but I think Pioli has done a solid job. Not a miracle worker, but a solid job. Give him a B. However, if he does not move on let the Cassel era end then he will quickly turn the B into an F.

Pioli hired Haley. And you want to give him "credit" for firing him after he turned out to be lousy? Really? It seems to me that Pioli is using Haley as a convenient scapegoat to cover up his other various mistakes.

And how in hell does anybody justify Cassel's contract as "the right price"?

Your last sentence is rather telling in that regard. You've already detailed Pioli's worst mistakes as his first three important moves as the Chiefs new GM... Hiring Haley, Trading for Cassel, and selecting TJack with #3 overall. And you finish your statement saying if he doesn't also admit his mistake with Cassel and cut him, that you'll then give him a failing grade.

2 out of 3 of Pioli's first major moves for the franchise, and you're trying to give him props for admitting to one of the failures and "hopefully" admitting to the other.

I don't get it....

[Bane]

Originally Posted by Messier

How do fans "demand" Pioli be fired? Pioli will be fired when and if the next 6-7 coaches don't work out.

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