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Old 01-03-2012, 11:05 AM   #1
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It's very sad. Tebow gets all this talk and he goes 6 for 22.
WHEN there is so much greatness going on in the NFL like...
Tom Brady and Drew Brees passing (pun not intended) Dan Marino's 22 year standing record.
Andy Dalton TRUE ROOKIE leading his team to their first playoff appearence in some time.
Cam Newton passing Peyton Manning in Rookie Passing yards.
AND all these don't get as much time on ESPN then Tebow... Sad.
Something like 20 QB's passed for 10k yards a piece this year. So many it's not an achievement but a direct indication to the NFL changing the rules that basically state the reciver must be allowed to catch the ball. Dan Marino would have put up 7 k on his own under these rules.
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:17 AM   #2
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Something like 20 QB's passed for 10k yards a piece this year. So many it's not an achievement but a direct indication to the NFL changing the rules that basically state the reciver must be allowed to catch the ball. Dan Marino would have put up 7 k on his own under these rules.
This is justification at its finest. The media pumped the nation full of a below average quarterback because a 28 year old record being broken by 2 different players isn't newsworthy due to officiating.
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:27 AM   #3
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This is justification at its finest. The media pumped the nation full of a below average quarterback because a 28 year old record being broken by 2 different players isn't newsworthy due to officiating.
Not officiating...league rules changes. The officials out there are just doing what their told. The league has done this...so excuse me if 5000 yards passing doesn't blow my skirt up. I am also sorry you and the ilk are jealous of Tebow...which is really what this boils down to.
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:35 AM   #4
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Not officiating...league rules changes. The officials out there are just doing what their told. The league has done this...so excuse me if 5000 yards passing doesn't blow my skirt up. I am also sorry you and the ilk are jealous of Tebow...which is really what this boils down to.
Semantics is what you're trying to argue right now with regards to "rule changes". John Elway was someone to be jealous of...not Tim Tebow.
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:37 AM   #5
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Not officiating...league rules changes. The officials out there are just doing what their told. The league has done this...so excuse me if 5000 yards passing doesn't blow my skirt up. I am also sorry you and the ilk are jealous of Tebow...which is really what this boils down to.
Good Christ, this is Knowmo level trolling.
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:41 AM   #6
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Good Christ, this is Knowmo level trolling.
5000 yards passing isn't very impressive. He'd rather have 1729 yards, 46.5% completion, and 13 turnovers in 11 games...all during a season that had rule changes to help aid quarterbacks.
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:45 AM   #7
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5000 yards passing isn't very impressive. He'd rather have 1729 yards, 46.5% completion, and 13 turnovers in 11 games...all during a season that had rule changes to help aid quarterbacks.
Heh, yep. But Garcia thinks that's "good" and stuff, and from a fan that used to watch Elway, no less.
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:46 AM   #8
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Not officiating...league rules changes. The officials out there are just doing what their told. The league has done this...so excuse me if 5000 yards passing doesn't blow my skirt up. I am also sorry you and the ilk are jealous of Tebow...which is really what this boils down to.
Jealous of.... Tebow?

Holy ****. I'd sooner give Cassel a lifetime contract and get his face tatooed on top of my head before I'd want Tebow in a Chiefs uniform for a single game.

Good lord. What the **** are you smoking?
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:52 AM   #9
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Not officiating...league rules changes. The officials out there are just doing what their told. The league has done this...so excuse me if 5000 yards passing doesn't blow my skirt up. I am also sorry you and the ilk are jealous of Tebow...which is really what this boils down to.
The rules changes are what they are... the league wants more offensive action.

-Three QBs were 5k+ yard passers
-Ten QBs were 4k+ yard passers
-19 WRs/TEs over 1,000 yards
-21 WRs/TEs over 7 TDs

It's a crazy passing league and while the rules suck to a degree regarding how they call the defense now... it is what it is and I'm a passing fan, so I like the crazy production. That's partly why I watch Denver games with one hand nearly ripping the leather off the arm of my recliner and the other one banging the remote against my forehead.

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John Elway was someone to be jealous of...not Tim Tebow.
Very true. Tebow has lots of good and lots of bad... but, he's not a QB that generates a great deal of jealousy among football fans at this point.
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:32 PM   #10
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The rules changes are what they are... the league wants more offensive action.

-Three QBs were 5k+ yard passers
-Ten QBs were 4k+ yard passers
-19 WRs/TEs over 1,000 yards
-21 WRs/TEs over 7 TDs

It's a crazy passing league and while the rules suck to a degree regarding how they call the defense now... it is what it is and I'm a passing fan, so I like the crazy production. That's partly why I watch Denver games with one hand nearly ripping the leather off the arm of my recliner and the other one banging the remote against my forehead.



Very true. Tebow has lots of good and lots of bad... but, he's not a QB that generates a great deal of jealousy among football fans at this point.
I like all aspects of the game.


I differ, not only are they jealous of Tebow, but the coverage drives them up the wall further.
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:58 AM   #11
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Not officiating...league rules changes. The officials out there are just doing what their told. The league has done this...so excuse me if 5000 yards passing doesn't blow my skirt up. I am also sorry you and the ilk are jealous of Tebow...which is really what this boils down to.
I'm not jealous. Really, I have nothing against Tebow. I feel that he gets a lot of crap from fans because of his faith and willingness to wear that on his sleeve. I got no problem with that. But I have to hope he fails because he plays for the dirty, stinking Broncos. Add to that the fact that he really sucks as a passer and yet the media (namely ESPN) has made him some kind of God like figure. That is very, very annoying.
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:03 PM   #12
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I'm not jealous. Really, I have nothing against Tebow. I feel that he gets a lot of crap from fans because of his faith and willingness to wear that on his sleeve. I got no problem with that. But I have to hope he fails because he plays for the dirty, stinking Broncos. Add to that the fact that he really sucks as a passer and yet the media (namely ESPN) has made him some kind of God like figure. That is very, very annoying.
I don't give a shit about Tebow's faith one way or another. He seems like a decent guy. But he's a horrible, HORRIBLE quarterback.

Cassel seems like a decent guy. And he's a horrible quarterback. But Tebow's so horrible that he makes Cassel look good.
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:03 PM   #13
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Add to that the fact that he really sucks as a passer and yet the media (namely ESPN) has made him some kind of God like figure. That is very, very annoying.
Question ... I honestly haven't watched many pre-game or post game shows over the last month, just the games. So, I have no idea what the media attention has been like since the 3 game skid.

I know that prior (during the 6 game win streak) it was all over every channel, radio and website... are they still slobbering over Tebow? I have watched some of ESPN or NFLN... not much, but I haven't really seen anything about the Broncos or Tebow like there was a few weeks ago.

I'm guessing it's all starting to settle a bit... am I wrong?

The thing that drove me crazy was Skip Bayless... I've always hated that guy and he was almost making me hate Tebow.
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:07 PM   #14
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I got the big time impression that the Denver faithful have had it with Tebow.
The Denver sports radio we were listening to after the game were just hammering him.
There is no way in hell Tebow is the starting QB next year in Denver.
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:09 PM   #15
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I got the big time impression that the Denver faithful have had it with Tebow.
The Denver sports radio we were listening to after the game were just hammering him.
There is no way in hell Tebow is the starting QB next year in Denver.
Never base predictions on what you hear or read from local media... especially radio shows. These guys are more or less fans that found sweet gigs talking sports.

If decisions were based on the local media coverage in Dallas... Jerry Jones would fire himself, Jimmy Johnson would be back - Romo would be gone.

Tebow has a lot to prove and if the opportunity to upgrade the QB position with someone that "EFX" likes better, they'll do it. It will be a tough sell on the many Tebow minions, but I'll go with whichever decision they make.
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