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Old 01-04-2012, 05:55 PM  
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Franchise Tag Carr, Bowe or Orton?
So you pretty much have to franchise Carr if you can't get a deal worked out. Otherwise dude leaves to get paid and we get nothing out of it. This was a little shortsighted on Pioli's part.

there is a scenario of signing both Carr and Bowe and franchising Orton but again you have to have Carr signed.

So what would you do?
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Old 01-04-2012, 06:19 PM   #46
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Old 01-04-2012, 06:19 PM   #47
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No but someone will pay him $20 mil for 4 or 5 and he would probably opt for the longer term contract.
Fine, that's reasonable.

That's basically "competent backup" money.
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Old 01-04-2012, 06:20 PM   #48
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We gave Cassel 3 years, 41 million.
That's because Pioli is a colossal moron.

Cassel was coming off a reasonably decent season. Orton isn't.
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Old 01-04-2012, 06:20 PM   #49
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Why? It's not guaranteed. He'll opt for most up-front cash. And 6 would just about do it, I'm sure.
If so then great!
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Old 01-04-2012, 06:21 PM   #50
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Alright - but when we're sitting on another $20 million in cap space next season and starting Matt Cassel because Orton took the best 4 year deal he could find, don't say you weren't warned.

The Chiefs have a chance to be very very good next season. A simply average NFL quarterback could be all that it takes.

I'd absolutely overpay for Orton if it meant getting Cassel gone. And if that overpay is only for a year, even better.

It's not a matter of taking Orton over Bowe or Carr - like I said, this is contingent on getting both of those guys signed longterm - it's a matter of taking Orton over Cassel and being willing to overpay in terms of $$ (money that I'm not ever going to see either way) over a short window to make it happen.

I'm not sure why folks are so up in arms about this. They just see "OHMYGOD ORTON AT $18 MILLION?!?!" and turn their brains off. Who gives a shit about how much cash we throw at a player on a 1-yr deal when it ultimately won't impact this team long-term at all?
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Old 01-04-2012, 06:22 PM   #51
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Old 01-04-2012, 06:25 PM   #52
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When I think Chiefs franchise, I think Orton.
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Alright - but when we're sitting on another $20 million in cap space next season and starting Matt Cassel because Orton took the best 4 year deal he could find, don't say you weren't warned.

The Chiefs have a chance to be very very good next season. A simply average NFL quarterback could be all that it takes.

I'd absolutely overpay for Orton if it meant getting Cassel gone. And if that overpay is only for a year, even better.

It's not a matter of taking Orton over Bowe or Carr - like I said, this is contingent on getting both of those guys signed longterm - it's a matter of taking Orton over Cassel and being willing to overpay in terms of $$ (money that I'm not ever going to see either way) over a short window to make it happen.

I'm not sure why folks are so up in arms about this. They just see "OHMYGOD ORTON AT $18 MILLION?!?!" and turn their brains off. Who gives a shit about how much cash we throw at a player on a 1-yr deal when it ultimately won't impact this team long-term at all?

Don't understand. If we cut Cassel, we can sign Orton and not pay him anymore than Cassel is scheduled to make over the next 3 years. If we give Orton the starter's job, we can have him at a reasonable price. The key is not Orton's price, but flushing the Cassel turd.
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If we let do anything other than trade Bowe for Luck/RGIII, Pioli needs to be gutted and then fired.
Deez, I beg to Dilfer.

You can't roll without wheels. Bowe may be an Short Block 350, but he's got a Rock Crusher Transmission. Just need the right linkage for steering, is all.
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What it comes down to basically is how much are you willing to pay to NOT see Cassel starting next year?
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When I think Chiefs franchise, I think Orton.

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where was the good QB?
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Sign bowe and carr and transition Orton (if we don't go after flynn)
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The Chiefs have a chance to be very very good next season. A simply average NFL quarterback could be all that it takes to earn a bye and get bounced in the divisional round at home.
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