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Old 01-04-2012, 05:55 PM  
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Franchise Tag Carr, Bowe or Orton?
So you pretty much have to franchise Carr if you can't get a deal worked out. Otherwise dude leaves to get paid and we get nothing out of it. This was a little shortsighted on Pioli's part.

there is a scenario of signing both Carr and Bowe and franchising Orton but again you have to have Carr signed.

So what would you do?
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Old 01-04-2012, 07:58 PM   #106
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Denver is going to be in the market for a corner. Hopefully you tag Bowe and we snag Carr.
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Old 01-04-2012, 08:04 PM   #107
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Old 01-04-2012, 08:07 PM   #108
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Old 01-04-2012, 08:08 PM   #109
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didn't wanna make a new thread for this but did he get hurt in Denver?
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Old 01-04-2012, 08:16 PM   #110
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I like Orton but to franchise him would be nuts!!! He's a journeymen QB that has played a few good games this year....nothing more!!!
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Old 01-04-2012, 08:17 PM   #111
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Old 01-04-2012, 08:17 PM   #112
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Is Richardson under contract? Do we need to throw him into the franchise tag mix?
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Old 01-04-2012, 08:20 PM   #113
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I like Orton but to franchise him would be nuts!!! He's a journeymen QB that has played a few good games this year....nothing more!!!
Take out "journeyman" and you've described Cassel before coming to KC.
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Old 01-04-2012, 08:23 PM   #114
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What the **** is going on around here?

Who gives a **** about orton? If we can resign him fine.


We abso****inglutely CANNOT LOSE BOWE OR CARR.

And we shouldn't
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Old 01-04-2012, 08:25 PM   #115
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If the 30% deal means we can't sign carr prior to march 13 and he will be on the market then we have to get bowe done and franchise carr
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If these are my only options, then I would have to franchise Orton. There is no way in ****ing hell I'm picking Cassel over him, so that's one. Two I'm not letting Bowe or Carr go. So if I can't sign all three and have to franchise one. Then it's him because I'm locking Bowe and Carr up.
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If these are my only options, then I would have to franchise Orton. There is no way in ****ing hell I'm picking Cassel over him, so that's one. Two I'm not letting Bowe or Carr go. So if I can't sign all three and have to franchise one. Then it's him because I'm locking Bowe and Carr up.

Again, why in the **** would you franchise Orton? If you can sign him...fine. If you can't, oh well. But if we are in the "franchise Orton" phase of Pioli's plan.....WE ARE ****ED.
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Again, why in the **** would you franchise Orton? If you can sign him...fine. If you can't, oh well. But if we are in the "franchise Orton" phase of Pioli's plan.....WE ARE ****ED.
First thing, I'm locking up Bowe and Carr then if all I can do is franchise Orton then I guess I have to do that because I AM NOT BRINGING CASSEL BACK. If we can just sign all three let's get it done and move on.
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Alright - but when we're sitting on another $20 million in cap space next season and starting Matt Cassel because Orton took the best 4 year deal he could find, don't say you weren't warned.

The Chiefs have a chance to be very very good next season. A simply average NFL quarterback could be all that it takes.

I'd absolutely overpay for Orton if it meant getting Cassel gone. And if that overpay is only for a year, even better.

It's not a matter of taking Orton over Bowe or Carr - like I said, this is contingent on getting both of those guys signed longterm - it's a matter of taking Orton over Cassel and being willing to overpay in terms of $$ (money that I'm not ever going to see either way) over a short window to make it happen.

I'm not sure why folks are so up in arms about this. They just see "OHMYGOD ORTON AT $18 MILLION?!?!" and turn their brains off. Who gives a shit about how much cash we throw at a player on a 1-yr deal when it ultimately won't impact this team long-term at all?
By very very good I assume that you mean 11-5 and a first round playoff ass kicking as the absolute ceiling.
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