Sac's 2012 End of Season Mock

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Munson

True fans everywhere are fapping to the thought of taking a C and OT in the first two rounds. But to be fair, these are two positions in need of a major upgrade.

They are, but a quality C and RT can be had in later rounds. Sac is a True Fans wet dream.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Dave

They are, but a quality C and RT can be had in later rounds. Sac is a True Fans wet dream.

You are an idiot.

You can say that about every single position on the field.

With the new rookie pay scale, the positional value thing as it relates to the draft is minimized.

Konz is far and away the best center. We need a center.

Did you go ape shit crazy when we took a 3-4 defensive end or a safety with a top five pick the past two years? Because both of those positions are right there with Center and Right Tackle in terms of perceived positional value.

Or are you one of those reeruns that is happy overdrafting for a substandard quarterback because, well, "we need to take a quarterback, any quarterback, in the first round because we haven't done it in a long, long time."?

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

You are an idiot.

You can say that about every single position on the field.

With the new rookie pay scale, the positional value thing as it relates to the draft is minimized.

Konz is far and away the best center. We need a center.

Did you go ape shit crazy when we took a 3-4 defensive end or a safety with a top five pick the past two years? Because both of those positions are right there with Center and Right Tackle in terms of perceived positional value.

Or are you one of those reeruns that is happy overdrafting for a substandard quarterback because, well, "we need to take a quarterback, any quarterback, in the first round because we haven't done it in a long, long time."?

I love the Berry pick.

Turns out it was the right pick and you were wrong.

Taking C at 11 is dumb.

Trading down to the bottom of the first? Okay.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Dave

I love the Berry pick.

Turns out it was the right pick and you were wrong.

Taking C at 11 is dumb.

Trading down to the bottom of the first? Okay.

No dumber than taking a safety in the top five.

It's a position that can and usually is filled with guys that can be found later in the draft and a position that is associated with a shorter longevity because of heightened injury potential. (Case in point - Berry. If he comes back from the knee injury and is fine, great. But what if he doesn't? Was it the right pick then? And to this point, he's been primarily a run defender and a liability in the passing game. I like the kid a lot, but let's not go annoitting him the next Paul Krause after one mixed rookie season. And yeah, he went to the Pro Bowl, but so did Matt Cassel.) How often has Polamalu and Bob Sanders been injured over their careers?

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

No dumber than taking a safety in the top five.

It's a position that can and usually is filled with guys that can be found later in the draft and a position that is associated with a shorter longevity because of heightened injury potential. (Case in point - Berry. If he comes back from the knee injury and is fine, great. But what if he doesn't? Was it the right pick then? And to this point, he's been primarily a run defender and a liability in the passing game. I like the kid a lot, but let's not go annoitting him the next Paul Krause after one mixed rookie season. And yeah, he went to the Pro Bowl, but so did Matt Cassel.) How often has Polamalu and Bob Sanders been injured over their careers?

dumbass

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

No dumber than taking a safety in the top five.

It's a position that can and usually is filled with guys that can be found later in the draft and a position that is associated with a shorter longevity because of heightened injury potential. (Case in point - Berry. If he comes back from the knee injury and is fine, great. But what if he doesn't? Was it the right pick then? And to this point, he's been primarily a run defender and a liability in the passing game. I like the kid a lot, but let's not go annoitting him the next Paul Krause after one mixed rookie season. And yeah, he went to the Pro Bowl, but so did Matt Cassel.) How often has Polamalu and Bob Sanders been injured over their careers?

Still hating on Berry...hilarious.

A 'mixed rookie season'?

He had one of the best rookie seasons any safety has ever had. Ever. He was the second best player on the field for us in the playoff game, as a rookie.

Jesus ****, man. Berry was drafted because he had been a star his whole damn life from high school to college, and everyone but you could see it. And he wasn't injured because he's a hard hitting safety. He was injured because some dick bag took a cheap shot at his knee.

You're so spectacularly ****ing wrong about things. But now you want us to draft a center a #11...and a 3rd round guard in the 2nd to be a RT? Those are 'smart ideas' to you, but drafting Berry wasn't?

**** me

[veist]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

Still hating on Berry...hilarious.

A 'mixed rookie season'?

He had one of the best rookie seasons any safety has ever had. Ever. He was the second best player on the field for us in the playoff game, as a rookie.

Jesus ****, man. Berry was drafted because he had been a star his whole damn life from high school to college, and everyone but you could see it. And he wasn't injured because he's a hard hitting safety. He was injured because some dick bag took a cheap shot at his knee.

You're so spectacularly ****ing wrong about things. But now you want us to draft a center a #11...and a 3rd round guard in the 2nd to be a RT? Those are 'smart ideas' to you, but drafting Berry wasn't?

**** me

Reynolds isn't even a 3rd round prospect, he's getting just killed at the shrine game practices.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by veist

Reynolds isn't even a 3rd round prospect, he's getting just killed at the shrine game practices.

Is he?:

An offensive tackle who bounced back on Tuesday after a disappointing first day was BYU offensive tackle Matt Reynolds. He fared well in his one-on-one matchups with Ole Miss defensive end Kentrell Lockett and Laval's Gascon-Nadon. Reynolds (6-4, 310) stonewalled Gascon-Nadon's bull rush and mirrored Lockett to stand him up away from the quarterback marker. In the team scrimmage, Reynolds continued his strong play with a nice run block, reaching the second level to give a shot to the Mike linebacker. Reynolds also did well in pass protection on some plays in the full team scrimmage. He needed a good practice and most definitely did.

So, ****nut, are you there watching the practices?

Or are you just some dumb ****er spouting off about one sentence shit you read on the intranets?

Are you there watching him "get killed?"

Seriously.

What are you basing your "he's getting killed" insight on?

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

Still hating on Berry...hilarious.

A 'mixed rookie season'?

He had one of the best rookie seasons any safety has ever had. Ever. He was the second best player on the field for us in the playoff game, as a rookie.

Jesus ****, man. Berry was drafted because he had been a star his whole damn life from high school to college, and everyone but you could see it. And he wasn't injured because he's a hard hitting safety. He was injured because some dick bag took a cheap shot at his knee.

You're so spectacularly ****ing wrong about things. But now you want us to draft a center a #11...and a 3rd round guard in the 2nd to be a RT? Those are 'smart ideas' to you, but drafting Berry wasn't?

**** me

This is why you are an idiot.

Berry was a high school quarterback who got signed as an "athlete" to Tenessee. The guy didn't even have an official position when he got there.

And I had no problem with the Chiefs taking him when they did. They had a hole at safety and it filled a need. However, he was far from a finished product and it showed his rookie year as he was singularly responsible for a number of touchdowns in the passing game. He ended the season as essentially a third middle linebacker.

And now you are saying that Reynolds is a third round guard after he has played the left tackle position his entire college career which netted him a first team freshman All-American selection and three consectutive first team All-Conference selections at the left tackle position. But now he's a guard.

You must be a ****ing football genius. Because you read one bloggers take after one post season practice.

I don't know what you do in life, but you are wasting yourself. You should be running a scout team for the best team in the NFL because you are so ****ing balls out right about everything NFL.

I apologize that I put out this mock because you are right and everyone else is wrong. And I am obviously in that second group.

I bow to your kick ass scouting skills. You know more than everyone.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

This is why you are an idiot.

Berry was a high school quarterback who got signed as an "athlete" to Tenessee. The guy didn't even have an official position when he got there.

And I had no problem with the Chiefs taking him when they did. They had a hole at safety and it filled a need. However, he was far from a finished product and it showed his rookie year as he was singularly responsible for a number of touchdowns in the passing game. He ended the season as essentially a third middle linebacker.

you're so full of shit

you hated the berry pick and have ragged it ever since, even as Berry had one of the best rookie seasons ever...calling him 'essentially a third middle linebacker' is the most epic butt hurt stupidity...

you wanted Okung over Berry..which is embarrassing, and pretty much all anyone needs to know about how you value talent

you overvalue OL talent for bizarre reasons no one can understand, and if the guy is white and a 'MAC 4 time team captain' who plays with 'good leverage' and squats 900 lbs then he's automatically worth drafting 3 rounds too high...

the sooner you'd just admit the Berry/Okung disaster was a stupid ****ing disaster, or just shut up about it, the sooner people would stop thinking you're clueless...but hey, I look forward to the Chiefs going center/guard in the first two rounds of the draft..reaching badly in each round...really

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but I do like reading your mocks regardless...for realz

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

No dumber than taking a safety in the top five.

It's a position that can and usually is filled with guys that can be found later in the draft and a position that is associated with a shorter longevity because of heightened injury potential. (Case in point - Berry. If he comes back from the knee injury and is fine, great. But what if he doesn't? Was it the right pick then? And to this point, he's been primarily a run defender and a liability in the passing game. I like the kid a lot, but let's not go annoitting him the next Paul Krause after one mixed rookie season. And yeah, he went to the Pro Bowl, but so did Matt Cassel.) How often has Polamalu and Bob Sanders been injured over their careers?

Get the **** out with the bashing on Eric Berry. He was a legit ROY candidate. and STFD.