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Old 01-12-2012, 11:36 AM   #1
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We are not going win a ****ing Super Bowl until all "true fans" concede to the notion that a retread QB is never going to win us a ****ing Super Bowl.


A draft pick QB can give us a 10 year window of opportunity to go to the big show.

A retread gives us two years window of opportunity to suck in the playoffs & fail to win anything beyond a divisional title.
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Old 01-12-2012, 11:38 AM   #2
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We are not going win a ****ing Super Bowl until all "true fans" concede to the notion that a retread QB is never going to win us a ****ing Super Bowl.
And you need to get past the notion that all the people saying this wouldn't necessarily be bad are True Fans who wouldn't also be in favor of drafting a QB.
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Old 01-12-2012, 11:40 AM   #3
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And you need to get past the notion that all the people saying this wouldn't necessarily be bad are True Fans who wouldn't also be in favor of drafting a QB.
This.

I think we all would like for Scott's top priority to move up to get RG3. But if that's not going to happen, am I willing to roll the dice on Peyton Manning over Matt Cassel? You bet.
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Old 01-12-2012, 11:44 AM   #4
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This.

I think we all would like for Scott's top priority to move up to get RG3. But if that's not going to happen, am I willing to roll the dice on Peyton Manning over Matt Cassel? You bet.
Exactly. If we're going to have a placeholder for a few years anyway, might as well be one that can take advantage of all the talent we have on offense.
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Old 01-12-2012, 08:27 PM   #5
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I think we all would like for Scott's top priority to move up to get RG3.
I don't think that Clark Hunt and Scott Pioli have anything that anyone else could possibly want, to trade to get Luck or Griffin.
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Old 01-12-2012, 11:37 PM   #6
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I don't think that Clark Hunt and Scott Pioli have anything that anyone else could possibly want, to trade to get Luck or Griffin.
They have their next three 1st round picks. I'd be ****ing ecstatic if they made that deal.
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Old 01-12-2012, 11:40 AM   #7
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We are not going win a ****ing Super Bowl until all "true fans" concede to the notion that a retread QB is never going to win us a ****ing Super Bowl.


A draft pick QB can give us a 10 year window of opportunity to go to the big show.

A retread gives us two years window of opportunity to suck in the playoffs & fail to win anything beyond a divisional title.
A healthy Manning is not a retread, that's the issue.

The "retread" version of Joe Montana led us to our last playoff victory.
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Old 01-12-2012, 11:46 AM   #8
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We are not going win a ****ing Super Bowl until all "true fans" concede to the notion that a retread QB is never going to win us a ****ing Super Bowl.


A draft pick QB can give us a 10 year window of opportunity to go to the big show.

A retread gives us two years window of opportunity to suck in the playoffs & fail to win anything beyond a divisional title.
You don't know that. Hell, Montana was 1 game away from getting us there. I still wonder how that game would have turned out if he hadn't gotten knocked out with a concussion.
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Old 01-12-2012, 11:48 AM   #9
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You don't know that. Hell, Montana was 1 game away from getting us there. I still wonder how that game would have turned out if he hadn't gotten knocked out with a concussion.
Montana suffered from concussion.

Hmmm...

Not as bad as a let's say broken neck?
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Old 01-12-2012, 12:15 PM   #10
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Montana suffered from concussion.

Hmmm...

Not as bad as a let's say broken neck?
All reports are that his neck is fine. It's the nerve in his throwing arm that is the issue. If anything, his neck will be stronger than it's been in several years.
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Old 01-12-2012, 12:15 PM   #11
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All reports are that his neck is fine. It's the nerve in his throwing arm that is the issue. If anything, his neck will be stronger than it's been in several years.
Where do you think the nerve in his throwing arm originates?
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Old 01-12-2012, 12:18 PM   #12
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Where do you think the nerve in his throwing arm originates?
Can't tell if you're being serious, but it's two different issues. His arm rehab isn't dependent on his neck and vice versa.
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Old 01-12-2012, 12:29 PM   #13
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Can't tell if you're being serious, but it's two different issues. His arm rehab isn't dependent on his neck and vice versa.
I don't think it is.

"Can you refresh our memories on Peyton Manning’s injury? What’s wrong with Peyton Manning’s neck?

Manning has degenerative disc disease of the cervical spine. He has had three surgeries thus far in his career to control pain, weakness, and tingling in his arms. Two of these surgeries happened this year, with the first in the offseason and the second shortly after the start of the 2011 season. His last surgery was a single level anterior cervical fusion. This is where the surgeon joins together Manning’s spinal bones to create stability."
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Old 01-12-2012, 12:26 PM   #14
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Where do you think the nerve in his throwing arm originates?
I have had a similar surgery my big toe joint and I will tell you that it limits your moment in that join and loss of nerve feeling. I am 3 yrs from that surgery.
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Old 01-12-2012, 12:32 PM   #15
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I have had a similar surgery my big toe joint and I will tell you that it limits your moment in that join and loss of nerve feeling. I am 3 yrs from that surgery.
A. Every surgery is different. From what I've heard (grain of salt, I know) his neck surgery went off without a hitch and his neck feels good.

B. I doubt you have access to Peyton Manning level medical care.
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