Chiefs @ 12

[Direckshun]

Assuming the Chiefs lose the coinflip with the Seahawks.

Here's how I imagine the first 11 picks go.

1. Indianapolis Colts: QB Andrew Luck, Stanford
2. Cleveland Browns (trade up): QB Robert Griffin, Baylor
3. Minnesota Vikings: OT Matt Kalil, USC
4. St. Louis Rams (trade down): WR Justin Blackmon, Oklahoma State
5. Tampa Bay Bucs: RB Trent Richardson, Alabama
6. Washington Redskins: CB Morris Claiborne, LSU
7. Jaguars: WR Alshon Jeffrey, South Carolina
8. Dolphins: DT Devin Still, Penn State
9. Panthers: CB Dre Kirkpatrick, Alabama
10. Bills: OT Jonathan Martin, Stanford
11. Seahawks: DE Quentin Coples, North Carolina
12. Chiefs:

At this point, my big board in terms of the most talented players is:

1. OG David DeCastro, Stanford
2. CB Janoris Jenkins, North Alabama
3. ILB Luke Kuechly, Boston College
4. OT Riley Reiff, Iowa
5. ILB Dont'a Hightower, Alabama
6. DE/OLB Nick Perry, USC
7. WR Michael Floyd, Notre Dame
8. DE/OLB Courtney Upshaw, Alabama
9. C Peter Konz, Wisconsin
10. CB Alonzo Dennard, Nebraska

As of now, which is waaaay too early in the game, here's the big board I have of the remaining talent.

I look over this list, and I gotta be honest. The only players that make sense are offensive line.

DeCastro, Reiff, and Konz.

I'm almost certain that, even if the Chiefs are able to trade down, their first rounder almost certainly will be offensive line.

Under these circumstances, I'd have to prefer the Chiefs go with the position with actual first round talent, and take a player you just know Pioli knows forwards and backwards, OT Riley Reiff for a position of clear need.

Of course, DeCastro is the best talent on the board, and aside from Jenkins and Kuechly, it's not even close. But the Chiefs are relatively set at guard with Lilja (who I believe Pioli is still fond of) and Asamoah. Plus, Pioli does value positional value, and he's not going to abandon that two years out of the past three. Normally right tackle isn't that valuable either, but Branden Albert is up for a new contract in 2013, and having an insurance policy in case Albert loses his mind and demands Willie Roaf money is critical.

I think this means the Chiefs draft Riley Reiff. The line for now looks pretty solid:

LT: Branden Albert, Riley Reiff
LG: Ryan Lilja, Darry Harris
C: Rodney Hudson, Darryl Harris
RG: Jon Asamoah, Darryl Harris
RT: Riley Reiff, Joe Maneri

[RealSNR]

If I were Pioli and didn't offer a trade up package to grab a QB, there wouldn't be many guys at 11 or 12 that really hit my clit.

Our first priority should be attempting to acquire RGIII or Luck

After that, one of those top two tackles would be great. Right now I don't see either of them making it out of the top 10, and trading up for them would just be ****ing stupid.

After that, the best value that I can see are those two corners. Claiborne and Kirkpatrick are mother****ers. Again, however, that means we'd likely have to go up and get them, and I'm really not cool with doing that. Also, it would probably mean Pioli would let Carr go, which would piss off the lot of us considering how much money we're sitting on.

So after those three unlikely scenarios for talent that the Chiefs could use, we're stuck looking at an inside backer in Kuechly, an elite guard, and elite center, or a slight reach at RT (Reiff). We could go Kuechly, but O.city claims we can get Hightower in the second. After that we're looking at interior line, because I've already made the case why they would fit better on this team than a RT in Round 1. So Kuechly or DeCastro/Konz it looks like. And both of these options have similar possibilities in the later rounds.

So... either way we're going to have to bite the bullet and spend the first rounder in a way that doesn't exactly maximize value. At least we're having this problem at pick #12, and not pick #3.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by jd1020

If we were to trade down in the first and pick up a 3rd or something. I would be looking at something like...

1) Dontari Poe, NT
2) Chris Polk, RB - even though I'm not a fan of RB so early, it fits better to grab RB here
3A) Nate Potter, OT
3B) Kevin Zeitler, G
4) Michael Egnew, TE
5) Jerry Franklin, ILB
6) Kellen Moore, QB
7) Kelcie McCray, SS

That ain't bad at all. I haven't seen enough of Dontari Poe to really have an opinion on the guy. What do you like about him? I was violently opposed to drafting Phil Taylor last year because I didn't like him as a prospect. Is Poe similar in value?

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by SNR

That ain't bad at all. I haven't seen enough of Dontari Poe to really have an opinion on the guy. What do you like about him? I was violently opposed to drafting Phil Taylor last year because I didn't like him as a prospect. Is Poe similar in value?

He's the biggest NT in the draft and no light weight NT has done well in a Crennel 3-4.

All Poe did was get double teamed and he still had 8 TFLs.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by jd1020

He's the biggest NT in the draft and no light weight NT has done well in a Crennel 3-4.

All Poe did was get double teamed and he still had 8 TFLs.

As long as he can hold the point of attack pretty well. The only thing missing from this Chiefs defense (besides Berry) is a freakin nose tackle who won't get blown back 5 yards at the beginning of every snap. We never had it with Edwards, and Gregg has only been a very minimal to slight improvement in that department.

[O.city]

I'd be perfectly fine with Jds draft.

If we could trade back and pick up an extra second, which is stretching it but we got a 3 last year to back up in the 20's. I think going from 11 to say 21 could get us a 2.

We could then go.

1. Konz
2a. Hightower
2b. Reynolds
3. Fleener
4. Chris Polk/Vic Ballard which ever one is around.
5. Bpa
6. Bpa
7. Bpa

Even if you missed on 5 thru 7, the first four rounds are solid.

We could come out of this draft with a pro bowl C, solid RT, ILB that knows the scheme we run and is a monster in the middle, great TE, and solid RB to compliment Charles.

[Extra Point]

Upshaw. Bookended with Hali, that may be something. Then, again, the O-line needs help. Konz would be a good pick. Our first round D-line picks have been more than suspect over the years.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Extra Point

Upshaw. Bookended with Hali, that may be something. Then, again, the O-line needs help. Konz would be a good pick. Our first round D-line picks have been more than suspect over the years.

Meh.

Dorsey was drafted to play 4-3 DT. He got 1 year.

Jackson was a wtf pick but if he continues to improve, in hindsight, he'll end up being a decent #3 pick just because of how bad that draft was.

[RUSH]

Originally Posted by Extra Point

Upshaw. Bookended with Hali, that may be something. Then, again, the O-line needs help. Konz would be a good pick. Our first round D-line picks have been more than suspect over the years.

Did you miss the second half of the season? Houston was great.

There's no need to draft a pass rusher that early.

[KCrockaholic]

Riley Rieff it is. And I'd be ok with that pick if this is how it fell.

He's a solid RT prospect, and would fill a major need on our team.

Unfortunately this selection feels like a waste because all we're doing by drafting Rieff is helping keep our piece of shit QB standing on his feet. So it's not exactly a good thing when you think of it like that.

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by Extra Point

Upshaw. Bookended with Hali, that may be something. Then, again, the O-line needs help. Konz would be a good pick. Our first round D-line picks have been more than suspect over the years.

?What? Why would we do that to Houston? We have our bookend and he's damn good.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by RUSH

Did you miss the second half of the season? Houston was great.

There's no need to draft a pass rusher that early.

Said the New York Giants.

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Said the New York Giants.

Exactly. Right now we essentially have 2. Another pass rusher makes more sense than a lot of what we see thrown around here..

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

Exactly. Right now we essentially have 2. Another pass rusher makes more sense than a lot of what we see thrown around here..

It's not worth spending a first on though. Building depth at the OLB would be great. You do that in the 3rd-7th round.

In the first we need to attack a position that is weak and fill it with somebody who can start from day 1.

And I'm a Courtney Upshaw fan. He's a terrific talent. But it would be a waste to spend a first on him.

[Direckshun]

I actually think Courtney Upshaw has the talent to play ILB in Belcher's position. Dude is a freight train when he hits the hole.

Then you can move him outside at will.

Gives the Chiefs lots of versatility. I don't think he's a Top 15 pick as of now but I have more time to look over prospects as draft season goes on.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Said the New York Giants.

While I do agree you can never have enough guys to get to the QB, having a lot of DE's is more important than a lot of pass-rushing OLB's when you consider how much more often the DE's are switched in and out.