Arrowhead anxiety: Turnover off the field causes concern

[Dr. Gigglepants]

Secrecy, intimidation, fear and a watchful eye have become hallmarks of working for the Chiefs, say some current and former employees.

BY KENT BABB THE KANSAS CITY STAR

Todd Haley walked into the public relations office at Chiefs headquarters on a Thursday in early December. Four days before he was fired as the team’s coach, he wanted to talk about what life was like inside this organization. But he didn’t know who else might be listening.

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http://www.kansascity.com/2012/01/14...nover-off.html

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This article goes into a lot of detail on the changes that came into effect with the Pioli regime. Sounds like a shitty ass place to work now.

[Okie_Apparition]

Gretz's site went up after Carl was fired, correct

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Laz

only problem is that you have no idea/proof that they have done anything

Babb did a very good job of multi-sourcing. It's not like he just asked one person and went at their word. No, we don't have any idea/proof, but you'd have to be nuts to believe that the pattern doesn't suggest that there is some really weird shit going on.

[O.city]

I've read thru all the posts on this OP, good arguments put up by both sides.

In all honesty its probably a little of both. People pissed at getting fired, Pioli is a micromanager.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by DRU

This story could have been spun in any direction. He's got just as many people saying there's nothing to this as he does people griping about it, but he chose to focus on the negative interviews so that he'd actually have a story. Otherwise, what would he have had other than what it is: people fired, therefore upset, and plenty of others still working and just fine with it. Hmmm...not much of a story there.

Anybody that takes the media's word about this sort of thing and uses it to base important decisions about their own life probably isn't somebody we'd want here in the first place.

This.

It sounds like they interviewed the "entitled" employees. Everybody works with entitled employees, and we all know that the piss and moan about everything.

It's the bosses way or the highway. I just wish that Pioli would extend his iron hand to Cassel.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Babb did a very good job of multi-sourcing. It's not like he just asked one person and went at their word. No, we don't have any idea/proof, but you'd have to be nuts to believe that the pattern doesn't suggest that there is some really weird shit going on.

Yeah, let me talk to a bunch of fired employees. That's a wide array of people, isn't it?

[DonkyPuncher]

Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition

I could care less, If I tried

Right? F**K all this nonsense give us a football team that wins!!!!! Make me GM I will give you all a qb that can produce and if he couldn't I would fix it, gum wrapper please..... WHO CARES

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DRU

This story could have been spun in any direction. He's got just as many people saying there's nothing to this as he does people griping about it, but he chose to focus on the negative interviews so that he'd actually have a story. Otherwise, what would he have had other than what it is: people fired, therefore upset, and plenty of others still working and just fine with it. Hmmm...not much of a story there.

Anybody that takes the media's word about this sort of thing and uses it to base important decisions about their own life probably isn't somebody we'd want here in the first place.

While you have to balance out the fact that these disgruntled employees are going to be very upset, on the flip side, you don't seriously expect that current employees are going to talk badly about the organization, especially when they're being directly quoted and especially given the allegation that they closely monitor what people are saying, do you?

There is most definitely a story here. It's not just people talking about an organization they hate. They seem to be pointing out very real examples and systematic stuff that are complete head-scratchers. It's the systematic stuff that worries me most, because those aren't isolated incidents.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50

Here is the bottom line for the homers on this board rushing to Fat Scott's defense...

The Chiefs WINS/LOSSES record under Fat Scott is a mediocre 21-28 in 3 seasons, including 0-1 in the playoffs. His first head coaching hire in KC has already been a failure. His biggest addition to the franchise, Cassel, has been a disaster.

Based on the level of accountability Clark is apparently holding everyone else in the franchise to, why does Clark still claim that he believes in Fat Scott?

Answer: Clark is a dickless piece of garbage who doesn't care about winning.

That is the bottom line.

cause he makes him mad money

[notorious]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

cause he makes him mad money

This.


The fans are angry, hence mad money.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Brock

Yeah, let me talk to a bunch of fired employees. That's a wide array of people, isn't it?

He spoke with fired employees and current employees and gave every single person from the top-down, it appears, a chance to represent their side of the story. Mark Donovan, one side of the story, had a ton of opportunity to fairly defend himself. Pioli chose not to, and I personally think that is laughable.

I thought it was a very well sourced story.

[DRU]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Babb did a very good job of multi-sourcing. It's not like he just asked one person and went at their word. No, we don't have any idea/proof, but you'd have to be nuts to believe that the pattern doesn't suggest that there is some really weird shit going on.

He interviewed just as many that said this was nothing. He just chose not to focus on those guys.

Some of you may follow UFC. Whether you do or not, there's an interesting thing going on there right now that is on the same subject here.

To keep it short, ESPN wrote an article trashing the UFC for underpaying their fighters. They did an interview with the 1 fighter they could find that wanted to trash the UFC, and they also did an interview with Lorenzo Fertitta, one of the owners of the UFC, and they're using that interview, edited to their own liking, to prove some of their points.

Dana White, the president of the UFC, is pissed about it, and has stated that he's going to use the same exact interview footage (since they had their cameras there, too) to create an edited version of the same video to make it look like the UFC is doing everything great and fighters couldn't be happier. Then he's going to show the entire, unedited interview, to show just exactly how easy it is to spin details and create stories.

I think it's going to be interesting.

Another example...I worked for a small business a few years ago that got raided by the FBI because they thought the company was selling counterfeit product. News crews were there and it was the first time I'd had a first hand experience with the media. They interviewed me and other employees, but we didn't have much to give them because there really wasn't much of a story.

Then I watched the news that night and they completely spun everything we had said in a direction that could not have been more incorrect. EVERYTHING they said on the news about the situation was completely wrong. It was shocking to me how badly they presented the information.

If you don't trust Pioli, fine. I don't like Cassel either. But to trust the media and base your own thoughts and decisions on them is just...well...let's say you'll be leading a very blissful life.

[Rexx]

Regardless of how much of this article is true, it still paints a bad picture of Pioli and the organization as a whole. When you are trying to recruit coaches, this is not something you want out there. Pioli is slowing painting himself into a corner, one that he likely won't get out of. The best thing he could do to slow the mounting pressure from fans and media is get another QB! Otherwise, I dont see this ending well for him unless Clark is blind to the obvious...which is definitely a possibility.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Babb did a very good job of multi-sourcing. It's not like he just asked one person and went at their word. No, we don't have any idea/proof, but you'd have to be nuts to believe that the pattern doesn't suggest that there is some really weird shit going on.

Nobody he talked to had ANY proof at all.

This article might as well have been called 'Arrowhead Watercooler talk'

only the electronic surveillance rumor means anything at all and it's completely unproven.

IF ... Haley really thought his cellphone had been tapped it would of been pretty easy to go somewhere and have it checked. I imagine even a tech at a local phone shop could open it up and check it to see if a component had been added to the inside. Hell, he could just keep the sim chip and exchange the phone to a different model if he was that concerned.

If Haley thought it was actually his phone # line was really tapped then i'm sure the FBI would just love to know about a company making illegal wire taps on their own.

You honestly think the chiefs are going to risk going to federal prison just to hear what that moron Todd Haley has to say to his wife?

[Okie_Apparition]

THe part that should bother fans, IMO
Is that they may isolate themselves from outside thinking
inbreeding minds have extra limbs

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

Yes, you could care less if you tried.

Haha, indeed.