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Old 01-17-2012, 09:36 AM  
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:29 PM   #16
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Obviously I could be wrong here, but I'm not a big fan of Jeffery. Reminds me of David Boston.
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:49 PM   #17
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Obviously I could be wrong here, but I'm not a big fan of Jeffery. Reminds me of David Boston.
He had a good day against one of the best D's in the country in 2010

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Old 01-21-2012, 02:47 AM   #18
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I hear ya but Orton isn't on the team so we'd have to sign him first.
That is the big issue. Is Orton going to sign here with Cassel around? Doubt it. What do you do, cut Matt to make Orton come here? Ideally you can trade Matt and avoid the cap hit of cutting him but I am not going to care at this point. Just get him out.

I just don't seem switching Matt out when they sign Orton and I think Orton only signs here if Matt isn't here.

Orton/Stanzi is a much better situation. Less emotional connection with Pioli and Orton so Stanzi would have a legit chance. Hopefully they would add another QB to better our odds.

I don't always think doom, but how can you not right now. I still worry that we sign a vet QB to be the backup and don't even let the young QB(s) compete.
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Old 01-21-2012, 03:20 AM   #19
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Old 01-21-2012, 04:00 AM   #20
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That is the big issue. Is Orton going to sign here with Cassel around? Doubt it. What do you do, cut Matt to make Orton come here? Ideally you can trade Matt and avoid the cap hit of cutting him but I am not going to care at this point. Just get him out.

I just don't seem switching Matt out when they sign Orton and I think Orton only signs here if Matt isn't here.

Orton/Stanzi is a much better situation. Less emotional connection with Pioli and Orton so Stanzi would have a legit chance. Hopefully they would add another QB to better our odds.

I don't always think doom, but how can you not right now. I still worry that we sign a vet QB to be the backup and don't even let the young QB(s) compete.
There is no cap hit to cut Cassel.

Jesus, how can no one get that.
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Old 01-21-2012, 08:40 AM   #21
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I do believe Orton is better than Cassel. Living out here in donkeyland though I got to see Orton for quite a while. There is a reason that the 2nd coming was started over him. Orton played probably the best 3 games he's played in a couple years for the Chiefs. He knew he was auditioning for the league. I'd like to see them cut Cassel and sign Orton to a 2-3 year deal but won't be butt hurt if they keep Cassel instead. Then as everyone has said, draft somebody that has potential instead of hope and grow from there.
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Old 01-21-2012, 09:21 AM   #22
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That is the big issue. Is Orton going to sign here with Cassel around? Doubt it. What do you do, cut Matt to make Orton come here? Ideally you can trade Matt and avoid the cap hit of cutting him but I am not going to care at this point. Just get him out.

I just don't seem switching Matt out when they sign Orton and I think Orton only signs here if Matt isn't here.

Orton/Stanzi is a much better situation. Less emotional connection with Pioli and Orton so Stanzi would have a legit chance. Hopefully they would add another QB to better our odds.

I don't always think doom, but how can you not right now. I still worry that we sign a vet QB to be the backup and don't even let the young QB(s) compete.
Lil Stumpy is right.
Cutting Cassel costs nothing.

But if there were a hit to take for cutting him, trading him would have the same hit to the cap as cutting.
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:36 AM   #23
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Lil Stumpy is right.
Cutting Cassel costs nothing.

But if there were a hit to take for cutting him, trading him would have the same hit to the cap as cutting.
The flipside to that is that, while cutting Cassel costs nothing, keeping him is already in the "budget", so that too essentially costs nothing.

Signing Orton is going to cost them considerable dollars, I don't see them doing it.
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Signing Orton is going to cost them considerable dollars, I don't see them doing it.
Some team is going to pay him to be their starter. Doubtful its KC.
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