Ryan Braun tests positive for PED

[whoman69]

Steroids simply break the balance of the game. To ignore the fact they don't flies in the face of the evidence. They render previous records irrelevent. The single season record that had been held for 36 years was broken six times in a four year period. Consider that record in 1961 was one better than the previous record set in 1927. And we're supposed to believe that a 35 year old ballplayer for the first time in major league history, actually got better with age. Those who are offense homers may not care, but they do make ballgames way too long with all the pitching changes needed in the now too common 10-8 ballgames.

Those who are undermining their health risks are citing information with normal use, which players were abusing by several fold. The number of steroid enhanced wrestlers dying from complications at a young age is proof that all your propoganda is meaningless.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by whoman69

Those who are undermining their health risks are citing information with normal use, which players were abusing by several fold. The number of steroid enhanced wrestlers dying from complications at a young age is proof that all your propoganda is meaningless.

So much fail with this post

Do you really think steroids are the only drug that wrestlers take?

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by whoman69

Steroids simply break the balance of the game. To ignore the fact they don't flies in the face of the evidence. They render previous records irrelevent. The single season record that had been held for 36 years was broken six times in a four year period. Consider that record in 1961 was one better than the previous record set in 1927. And we're supposed to believe that a 35 year old ballplayer for the first time in major league history, actually got better with age. Those who are offense homers may not care, but they do make ballgames way too long with all the pitching changes needed in the now too common 10-8 ballgames.

Those who are undermining their health risks are citing information with normal use, which players were abusing by several fold. The number of steroid enhanced wrestlers dying from complications at a young age is proof that all your propoganda is meaningless.

Not a single wrestler has ever died because of steroids.

Do you know that?????

Jesus titty ****ing christ.

Wrestlers take a buttload of recreational drugs and pain killers. That is the primary drug(s) people should be looking at. But nope, no one has a problem with pain killers.

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Not a single wrestler has ever died because of steroids.

Do you know that?????

Jesus titty ****ing christ.

Wrestlers take a buttload of recreational drugs and pain killers. That is the primary drug(s) people should be looking at. But nope, no one has a problem with pain killers.

Yup, steroids are completely safe. And you were there for all the post mortems.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by whoman69

Steroids simply break the balance of the game. To ignore the fact they don't flies in the face of the evidence. They render previous records irrelevent. The single season record that had been held for 36 years was broken six times in a four year period. Consider that record in 1961 was one better than the previous record set in 1927. And we're supposed to believe that a 35 year old ballplayer for the first time in major league history, actually got better with age. Those who are offense homers may not care, but they do make ballgames way too long with all the pitching changes needed in the now too common 10-8 ballgames.

Different eras of baseball have rendered previous records irrelevant...it has little to do with PEDs. Players have been using PEDs in baseball since since the 60s/70s and they'll continue to in the future.

I don't know why anybody is worried about the sanctity of records from a bygone era when they played a completely different game, anyway.

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Different eras of baseball have rendered previous records irrelevant...it has little to do with PEDs. Players have been using PEDs in baseball since since the 60s/70s and they'll continue to in the future.

I don't know why anybody is worried about the sanctity of records from a bygone era when they played a completely different game, anyway.

So its just a coincidence that after baseball started cracking down on steroids, these records have not been approached again. Did baseball players all of a sudden get worse?

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by whoman69

So its just a coincidence that after baseball started cracking down on steroids, these records have not been approached again. Did baseball players all of a sudden get worse?

No, it just suddenly became a pitching era around 2008 (several years after they started drug testing). There are many theories for why that happened, but the biggest is that MLB changed their baseballs once again (probably to fool the fans/media into thinking that their testing was making some kind of a difference).

Here's a bit of reading about MLB's history of doing that:
http://steroids-and-baseball.com/
http://steroids-and-baseball.com/cha...baseball.shtml

Remember that pitchers were using PEDs just as much as hitters were. Wouldn't we expect a dropoff in performance from them without PEDs, too? We certainly haven't seen that at all (at least not since 2007/2008 when offensive levels fell around the game).

The point to take out of all of this, though, is that there are many more factors outside of PED use that can be attributed to both higher and lower offensive levels throughout the game.