Ryan Braun tests positive for PED

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Both you idiots realize that you can get stronger, and not have a faster bat swing right??????

Two guys both bench press 315 as their max.

Which guy is more powerful? Tell me.

Yeah, you can, if you train like an idiot. You can also get stronger and with that strength greatly increase your batspeed.

Baseball players don't train like idiots.

When they add strength, they do so in a manner that allows them to increase their batspeed via increasing their ability to move mass without decreasing their flexibility.

I do not see what's so hard to understand about this. Further, the fact that you're citing bench press again indicates how little you know about a baseball swing. Most hitters will generate a great deal of their batspeed from their legs. It allows them to swing their hips through harder and faster. The added strength in their arms will allow them to keep their hands back despite the additional force generated by their legs. That creates a great deal of kinetic energy buildup through their back and shoulders. As the ball reaches the hitting zone, they can then release all that. The greater the energy, the greater the speed (unless you sacrifice flexibility in the process; but hitters know better).

Again - you simply don't know enough about hitting a baseball to make the arguments your trying to make. Everything about a major league swing is improved through additional strength, unless your some juiced up idiot that strength trains to the point that you lose the 'loose limbs' that will let you flick the bat.

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yeah, you can, if you train like an idiot. You can also get stronger and with that strength greatly increase your batspeed.

Baseball players don't train like idiots.

When they add strength, they do so in a manner that allows them to increase their batspeed via increasing their ability to move mass without decreasing their flexibility.

This has nothing to do with it. You have no clue as to what you're talking about.

I do not see what's so hard to understand about this. Further, the fact that you're citing bench press again indicates how little you know about a baseball swing. Most hitters will generate a great deal of their batspeed from their legs. It allows them to swing their hips through harder and faster. The added strength in their arms will allow them to keep their hands back despite the additional force generated by their legs. That creates a great deal of kinetic energy buildup through their back and shoulders. As the ball reaches the hitting zone, they can then release all that. The greater the energy, the greater the speed (unless you sacrifice flexibility in the process; but hitters know better).

Again - you simply don't know enough about hitting a baseball to make the arguments your trying to make. Everything about a major league swing is improved through additional strength, unless your some juiced up idiot that strength trains to the point that you lose the 'loose limbs' that will let you flick the bat.

I am citing the bench press as a reason. Answer the question. Two guys bench press 315 as their absolute max. Who is more powerful? Answer it.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

This has nothing to do with it. You have no clue as to what you're talking about.



I am citing the bench press as a reason. Answer the question. Two guys bench press 315 as their absolute max. Who is more powerful? Answer it.

There's absolutely no way of knowing. There are too many variations in the bio-mechanics.

Now go ahead and explain to me how strength isn't at all relevant in someone's ability to move mass.