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Old 02-10-2012, 05:18 PM   #1
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Am I the only one who thinks this cap space has more to do with Carl Peterson then Scott Pioli? Outside of the '08 draft we've had I think 2 players in Carl Petersons era get second contracts. It will be 3 with Bowe, but that is still ridiculous how bad we were at drafting under Carl. That is where I believe all this money is coming from. It also helps that we resigned Jamaal Charles and DJ well under the market value
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It also helps that our big FA signings under Pioli are Steve Breaston and a bunch of guys like Brandon Siler.
The new strategy is to build under the draft. Since you have younger players, they are cheaper, especially with the new rookie scale. CP could have never done that because he drafted so horribly. He was always looking to fill holes with expensive FAs.
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Old 02-10-2012, 05:40 PM   #2
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The new strategy is to build under the draft. Since you have younger players, they are cheaper, especially with the new rookie scale. CP could have never done that because he drafted so horribly. He was always looking to fill holes with expensive FAs.
GOOD teams fill holes with expensive FAs.

You draft your core, especially at QB, and then spend money to fill in the gaps with established players.

We're basically doing it the OPPOSITE of the way good teams do it.
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Old 02-10-2012, 07:03 PM   #3
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GOOD teams fill holes with expensive FAs.

You draft your core, especially at QB, and then spend money to fill in the gaps with established players.

We're basically doing it the OPPOSITE of the way good teams do it.
I fully expect big $'s to be paid to Carr and Bowe and use up a big chunk of that cap room.
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Old 02-10-2012, 09:44 PM   #4
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GOOD teams fill holes with expensive FAs.

You draft your core, especially at QB, and then spend money to fill in the gaps with established players.

We're basically doing it the OPPOSITE of the way good teams do it.
I think you're getting a little tunnel vision because of the QB issues. Good teams are generally finished building, or close to it, before they start launching those massive contracts. The Chiefs started that process last year with Breaston.

The only area where they've failed is quarterback. They've done everything else the way they should have, from a philosophical standpoint. They have built through the draft. Where their philosophy differs from yours and mine is that they apparently don't see QB as a high draft priority, and prefer the veteran route. Which works when you get Drew Brees. Unfortunately they got Matt Cassel.

And unfortunately drafting a QB now isn't going to fix anything. A QB should have been drafted between 2005 and 2008, and should be entering his prime now. Don't of course mistake that as me saying "don't draft a QB," I'm merely pointing out that that's the real problem at the heart of things: they need a *good* quarterback with Cassel's years and experience. Or even a slightly younger one just entering his prime, like say a non-sucky doppleganger of Mark Sanchez drafted much later in the round.

My guess is they're going to continue with vets because they don't want to wait for development. They likely think they're finished building (probably thought that last year), and drafting and developing a QB is a process that would feasibly set them back several years. That's in their minds, not mine.

I'd be tickled pink if they stayed put or dropped back and got a second tier QB in the latter half of the round, or even early in the 2nd. While that still wouldn't be a top-5 franchise pick, it would still be a night and day improvement over gambling on guys in the 3rd-7th and hoping they get lucky. I've seen enough Stanzi's and Smoker's and Croyle's. And Cassel's.

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