Chiefs Chiefs are 63m under the cap - Page 33

ShowtimeSBMVP · 02-10-2012, 01:43 PM

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Always KC. RT @MattPomPom Teams with most salary cap room(in millions): KC $63, TB $60, CIN $60, DEN $51, WAS $48, JAC $45.

O.city · 02-19-2012, 06:54 PM

I thought someone said they had to get to within 5 percent of the cap this year?

aturnis · 02-19-2012, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

All this talk about Carr Bowe, Soliai etc.

If we just signed those three to market value, what would the likely hit be?

Completely depends on the contract. If they were smart, they'd take as much of it in the first two years as possible.

A bunch this year, to get them close enough to carry over the remaining cap space into 2013, then use the rollover primarily on those 3, getting us all the players we coveted, and leaving our future cap situation bright.

aturnis · 02-19-2012, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I thought someone said they had to get to within 5 percent of the cap this year?

They need to be within 5% if they want to carry the remaining balance to next season.

aturnis · 02-19-2012, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

I still think the Chiefs will be way under the cap this season as well. And all this no spending is to reflect next season when you have to be really close to the cap. They will just splash then.

That sounds like the complete opposite of something that Scott Pioli would do.

**notorious** · 02-19-2012, 09:17 PM

Who are you guys kidding?

We have a .500 team that competes every Sunday. Why should Clark put out any more money if he is still getting paid?

It's an easy 30 million in his pocket. That's why he overpaid Pioli, so that he can get value.

O.city · 02-19-2012, 09:18 PM

Well he is gonna have to pay, eventually.

aturnis · 02-19-2012, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Who are you guys kidding?

We have a .500 team that competes every Sunday. Why should Clark put out any more money if he is still getting paid?

It's an easy 30 million in his pocket. That's why he overpaid Pioli, so that he can get value.

Duh. We HAVE to reach next years floor. Do you really think Pioli will go into next season 30mil below the cap again and be FORCED to pay guys contracts they don't deserve? We have less "dead" money than anyone in the league. Do you think it got that way by Pioli paying guys contracts they don't deserve?

Bowe
Carr
Soliai

If Pioli thinks that they are worth the money they are asking, he will pay it. If not, he'll let them walk, ala Shaun Smith. Pioli seems to have been right. Smiths production looks to have dropped by roughly half, whether by fault of his own or not, and Amon Gordon came in and produced for us. Not only him, but Allen Bailey too.

I'm not a huge Pioli fan, but he's done a stellar job thus far.

aturnis · 02-19-2012, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Duh. We HAVE to reach next years floor. Do you really think Pioli will go into next season 30mil below the cap again and be FORCED to pay guys contracts they don't deserve? We have less "dead" money than anyone in the league. Do you think it got that way by Pioli paying guys contracts they don't deserve?

Bowe
Carr
Soliai

If Pioli thinks that they are worth the money they are asking, he will pay it. If not, he'll let them walk, ala Shaun Smith. Pioli seems to have been right. Smiths production looks to have dropped by roughly half, whether by fault of his own or not, and Amon Gordon came in and produced for us. Not only him, but Allen Bailey too.

I'm not a huge Pioli fan, but he's done a stellar job thus far.

Not only that, but why on earth would he decide to activate the cap rollover clause in order to give us roughly an extra 20 mil to spend this year?

beach tribe · 02-19-2012, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Who are you guys kidding?

We have a .500 team that competes every Sunday. Why should Clark put out any more money if he is still getting paid?

It's an easy 30 million in his pocket. That's why he overpaid Pioli, so that he can get value.

Because the real ****ing dough comes from a FULL Arrowhead, PO wins, merchandising, etc. etc.
That 30 mil comes back in fold when you put a contender on the field.
Montana took us to the AFC championship game, and the stadium stayed packed until Herm showed up.

beach tribe · 02-20-2012, 07:28 AM

Probably a repost so I'll save posting the entire article.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...module=HP11_cp

htismaqe · 02-20-2012, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Because the real ****ing dough comes from a FULL Arrowhead, PO wins, merchandising, etc. etc.
That 30 mil comes back in fold when you put a contender on the field.
Montana took us to the AFC championship game, and the stadium stayed packed until Herm showed up.

The REAL dough, for both the NCAA and the NFL, comes from the TV contracts.

Period.

htismaqe · 02-20-2012, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Duh. We HAVE to reach next years floor. Do you really think Pioli will go into next season 30mil below the cap again and be FORCED to pay guys contracts they don't deserve? We have less "dead" money than anyone in the league. Do you think it got that way by Pioli paying guys contracts they don't deserve?

Bowe
Carr
Soliai

If Pioli thinks that they are worth the money they are asking, he will pay it. If not, he'll let them walk, ala Shaun Smith. Pioli seems to have been right. Smiths production looks to have dropped by roughly half, whether by fault of his own or not, and Amon Gordon came in and produced for us. Not only him, but Allen Bailey too.

I'm not a huge Pioli fan, but he's done a stellar job thus far.

No offense, but you could pretty much replace Pioli with Peterson and this post would sound like 10 year ago all over again.

Chiefnj2 · 02-20-2012, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

No offense, but you could pretty much replace Pioli with Peterson and this post would sound like 10 year ago all over again.

Peterson wouldn't have upped Charles, Hali and Johnson with plenty of time to spare.

htismaqe · 02-20-2012, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Peterson wouldn't have upped Charles, Hali and Johnson with plenty of time to spare.

He re-signed quite a few players proactively over his time. Nobody gives him credit for getting Derrick Thomas into the fold early in 1996 because it required letting Neil Smith go...

beach tribe · 02-20-2012, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

The REAL dough, for both the NCAA and the NFL, comes from the TV contracts.

Period.

This is true.

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