Chiefs Describe your 'perfect' offseason - Page 2

DJ's left nut · 02-20-2012, 01:01 AM

The only caveat being that it needs to be reasonably doable.

And remember, this is a 'perfect' offseason, so there is no priority of occurences, so don't feel the need to list them in order of your preferred events. Additionally, remember that you're the owner and GM; so I don't care what Clark will spend, or what Pioli would do. It's your toy.

Mine:

Re-sign Carr (ballpark his deal at Flowers; $8 mil cap hit).
Franchise Bowe ($8.5 mil cap hit).

Sign Manning to a 3-yr deal giving him a marginal signing bonus but a fairly significant year 1 salary. Manning isn't a guy that will shut it down in years 2 and 3 if he's paid the bulk of his K in year 1 so he's a perfect use of our 'rollover' funds. You could give him a hefty guaranteed base salary (10 millionish) and a signing bonus of another 10 million(ish), thus guaranteeing him $20 million without knowing if he can throw; I don't think any other teams are willing to do that. You'll end up with a cap hit just shy of $14 million that way.

Sign Soliai. He, OTOH, may be a guy that would shut it down if he gets paid large up front, so we'll want to go 'conventional' with his deal. Vince Wilfork signed a record deal for NTs and his cap hit has been fairly reasonable for the last 2 years, with the best source I could find having it at about 5 million last year. Kyle Williams just re-signed for 6/39. Ngata has blown the scale a little bit in his new deal, but even it only has cap figures of about $7 million and $10.5 million in the first 2 seasons, with increases of about $2 million/season thereafter. The good news is that my memory is that Hali's contract was frontloaded, so it could easily offset that increase. But let's be pessimistic and say that Soliai gets a 'ngata' deal (unlikely, IMO) and we get an $8 million cap hit.

So you have cap hits of 8, 8.5, 14 and 8; about $38.5 million. Some say we get $63 million to play with, others are suggesting $37 million. In either event, at $37 million, money could be moved, contracts re-structured in a manner to make those 4 players fit, IMO. And if we have $60 some - well it's all the easier.

Draft time:

1) Trent Richardson, RB -- Dunno what we'll have in Charles and Richardson's skills as a pass-blocker/WR out of the backfield could help Manning out a ton. Our offense would be the best in the league at that point, IMO.

2) Zebrie Sanders, RT -- I think many concerns that LTs will go very high in the draft are well founded; I expect a run on LTs. The good news is that Sanders doesn't appear to be well suited to play LT and isn't quite a first round talent anyway. He appears to be very likely to fall to us, a capable pass-blocker (though not elite; hence his status as a likely RT) and a very good run-blocker.

3) Kevin Zeitler, G -- I know, I'm gonna get 'truefanned' to death here; but I don't think expecting Foles in the 3rd is reasonable. The ability to turn over 2/5 of our O-line as well as having a ton of young talent on that line is just too much to pass up. This kid is a road-grader and could give us just a little bit more of a nasty streak inside with Asomoah.

4) FANGUPO! -- Okay, with Soliai, we don't really need him; I just like his name. Honestly I'd love to see Ryan Broles, WR with this pick. If he comes back healthy, he's absolutely electric. He'd be what McCluster was supposed to be in the slot. He probably wouldn't be to full speed this season but we honestly wouldn't need him there just yet. He'd be a fantastic long-term weapon to get this late.

5) Michael Egnew, TE -- His senior bowl performances swayed me. Big kid, great hands. I think he can be taught to be at least a Dallas Clark level blocker. He'd be a great insurance policy for Moeaki and he's always been healthy as a horse.

6) Ryan Lindley -- Why not? I think he has some talent to work with.

7) I dunno - go find me a raw linebacker that can crack some skulls on special teams. Or a corner with some tools that might be an adequate dime-back some day. How 'bout Asa Jackson? Short but with speed to burn. D'Anton Lynn would also work here; taller but not as athletic. Probably wouldn't have lasted as long had he not gotten hurt last year. Probably a nice value pick here, but not as much upside as Jackson, IMO.

So there you have it - my 'ideal' offseason.

What say you? How would your perfect offseason go?

(EDIT: **** me...that's really long. My bad)

Mr_Tomahawk · 02-20-2012, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover

Hoover becomes GM

Removes yellow seats in the club section. Does not want to be reminded about empty seats while watching the game from the owners box.

1. Re-sign our young talent. Bowe and Carr are resigned.
2. Sign Soliai. Carr plus Soliai fill the needs gaps on defense.
3. Sign Peyton Manning. As I mentioned before I hate empty seats and I also like to sell Jerseys. Wouldn't mind being in an Oreo commercial either.
4. Sign Ben Grubbs. Nicks is going to get all the attention, but Grubbs is young too and solid.

Draft

1. OT - I'm not convinced that there will a run on OT's in the top 10. I think we can realistically get one of the top guys. I don't like going OT here, but I need to protect Manning and by LT is a FA next year. If I could land one of the top two QB's I'd do it in a heartbeat, but its not going to happen. My biggest needs are at QB and OT, and I'm taking one.

2. Running back. I'll take the best guy there.

3. Linebacker

Winner.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-20-2012, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

hmmm..perfect offseason

Pioli chokes on a hotdog making Cassel jealous. Cassel holds out for an apology ("that should have been my hotdog!") to which Pioli, having just coughed up what turned out to be a Wiener schnitzel, responds by firing the copy repair man for 'gross negligence' as it pertains to the strategically placed paper clip only just protruding from the strategically placed Healthy Choice Chicken Alfredo microwaveable tray that - in a true stroke of Piolian genious - was hiding in the trash.

And somewhere on a beach, with his clam diggers rolled up to his knees, Kcjohhny breaks a guitar string and expresses his love of Jesus off-key.

suds79 · 02-20-2012, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Mine:

Re-sign Carr (ballpark his deal at Flowers; $8 mil cap hit).
Franchise Bowe ($8.5 mil cap hit).

Sign Manning to a 3-yr deal

Sign Soliai.

Draft time:

1) Trent Richardson, RB
2) Zebrie Sanders, RT
3) Kevin Zeitler, G
4) FANGUPO!
5) Michael Egnew,
6) Ryan Lindley
7) I dunno

So there you have it - my 'ideal' offseason.

(EDIT: **** me...that's really long. My bad)

Pretty good. Mine is about same or close.

Keep all the resigning you mentioned above. I like the idea of franchising Bowe. Keep him hungry.

Draft:

Either take Richardson at 11 or if we can trade down, grab Poe in the late 1st. Get more draft picks, be set at NT for years. Would have a great rotation. Then just be sure to draft a RB in the middle of the draft.

Also have to get a good TE in the draft. Cannot assume Tony will be 100% and stay healthy.

O.city · 02-20-2012, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The only caveat being that it needs to be reasonably doable.

And remember, this is a 'perfect' offseason, so there is no priority of occurences, so don't feel the need to list them in order of your preferred events. Additionally, remember that you're the owner and GM; so I don't care what Clark will spend, or what Pioli would do. It's your toy.

Mine:

Re-sign Carr (ballpark his deal at Flowers; $8 mil cap hit).
Franchise Bowe ($8.5 mil cap hit).

Sign Manning to a 3-yr deal giving him a marginal signing bonus but a fairly significant year 1 salary. Manning isn't a guy that will shut it down in years 2 and 3 if he's paid the bulk of his K in year 1 so he's a perfect use of our 'rollover' funds. You could give him a hefty guaranteed base salary (10 millionish) and a signing bonus of another 10 million(ish), thus guaranteeing him $20 million without knowing if he can throw; I don't think any other teams are willing to do that. You'll end up with a cap hit just shy of $14 million that way.

Sign Soliai. He, OTOH, may be a guy that would shut it down if he gets paid large up front, so we'll want to go 'conventional' with his deal. Vince Wilfork signed a record deal for NTs and his cap hit has been fairly reasonable for the last 2 years, with the best source I could find having it at about 5 million last year. Kyle Williams just re-signed for 6/39. Ngata has blown the scale a little bit in his new deal, but even it only has cap figures of about $7 million and $10.5 million in the first 2 seasons, with increases of about $2 million/season thereafter. The good news is that my memory is that Hali's contract was frontloaded, so it could easily offset that increase. But let's be pessimistic and say that Soliai gets a 'ngata' deal (unlikely, IMO) and we get an $8 million cap hit.

So you have cap hits of 8, 8.5, 14 and 8; about $38.5 million. Some say we get $63 million to play with, others are suggesting $37 million. In either event, at $37 million, money could be moved, contracts re-structured in a manner to make those 4 players fit, IMO. And if we have $60 some - well it's all the easier.

Draft time:

1) Trent Richardson, RB -- Dunno what we'll have in Charles and Richardson's skills as a pass-blocker/WR out of the backfield could help Manning out a ton. Our offense would be the best in the league at that point, IMO.

2) Zebrie Sanders, RT -- I think many concerns that LTs will go very high in the draft are well founded; I expect a run on LTs. The good news is that Sanders doesn't appear to be well suited to play LT and isn't quite a first round talent anyway. He appears to be very likely to fall to us, a capable pass-blocker (though not elite; hence his status as a likely RT) and a very good run-blocker.

3) Kevin Zeitler, G -- I know, I'm gonna get 'truefanned' to death here; but I don't think expecting Foles in the 3rd is reasonable. The ability to turn over 2/5 of our O-line as well as having a ton of young talent on that line is just too much to pass up. This kid is a road-grader and could give us just a little bit more of a nasty streak inside with Asomoah.

4) FANGUPO! -- Okay, with Soliai, we don't really need him; I just like his name. Honestly I'd love to see Ryan Broles, WR with this pick. If he comes back healthy, he's absolutely electric. He'd be what McCluster was supposed to be in the slot. He probably wouldn't be to full speed this season but we honestly wouldn't need him there just yet. He'd be a fantastic long-term weapon to get this late.

5) Michael Egnew, TE -- His senior bowl performances swayed me. Big kid, great hands. I think he can be taught to be at least a Dallas Clark level blocker. He'd be a great insurance policy for Moeaki and he's always been healthy as a horse.

6) Ryan Lindley -- Why not? I think he has some talent to work with.

7) I dunno - go find me a raw linebacker that can crack some skulls on special teams. Or a corner with some tools that might be an adequate dime-back some day. How 'bout Asa Jackson? Short but with speed to burn. D'Anton Lynn would also work here; taller but not as athletic. Probably wouldn't have lasted as long had he not gotten hurt last year. Probably a nice value pick here, but not as much upside as Jackson, IMO.

So there you have it - my 'ideal' offseason.

What say you? How would your perfect offseason go?

(EDIT: **** me...that's really long. My bad)

This sounds pretty good.

Accept in round 4, instead of Fangaupu I'd take the best wr still available. I want Joe Adams but he's likely gone by round 3 atleast.

Dayze · 02-20-2012, 11:47 AM

Winning the lottery. I've given it a lot of thought.....and winning the lotto would definitely be the best off season ever.

tredadda · 02-20-2012, 11:59 AM

1. Resign Carr
2. Resign Bowe
3. Sign Soliai
4. Sign Nicks, or Grubbs
5. Sign the law firm
5. Trade out of the first this year, hopefully get a first rounder next year for it.
6. Draft BPA at RT in RD 2
7. Draft BPA in a position of need throughout rest of draft.

Next year use two 1st rounders and whatever else necessary to trade up an take best QB in draft.

Titty Meat · 02-20-2012, 01:29 PM

Name Matt Cassel the starter

Sign Stanford Routt

Draft a Right Tackle

Sign a few guys who won't be in the league in 2 years to provide leadership.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-20-2012, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Scott Pioli is fired and we hire a GM that realizes what happens for 3 hours on gameday matters infinitely more than candy wrappers, using the color copier and leaving the lights on past 5:00.

Oh, and use our eleventy-billion in cap room to re-sign Bowe and Carr.

Or, we could downgrade and save a few bucks.

**Bowser** · 02-20-2012, 04:15 PM

Win Powerball.

**DeezNutz** · 02-20-2012, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Or, we could downgrade and save a few bucks.

Clark:

**Bowser** · 02-20-2012, 04:18 PM

Dammit, Dayze

Chiefnj2 · 02-20-2012, 07:51 PM

Ideal:
Tag Bowe.
Sign Carr, Soliai, Meyers, Randy Moss.

Trade this years 1st, Bowe, next years 1st to the Rams for RGIII.

Find a RT somewhere in the 2nd - 7th.

jd1020 · 02-20-2012, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Ideal:
Tag Bowe.
Sign Carr, Soliai, Meyers, Randy Moss.

Trade this years 1st, Bowe, next years 1st to the Rams for RGIII.

Find a RT somewhere in the 2nd - 7th.

Because the Rams can afford Bowe.

**BigMeatballDave** · 02-20-2012, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Ideal:
Tag Bowe.
Sign Carr, Soliai, Meyers, Randy Moss.

Trade this years 1st, Bowe, next years 1st to the Rams for RGIII.

Find a RT somewhere in the 2nd - 7th.

Randy Moss? GTFO

Dayze · 02-20-2012, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser

Dammit, Dayze

great minds....

02-20-2012, 01:01 AM
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-860901	Describe your 'perfect' offseason The only caveat being that it needs to be reasonably doable. And remember, this is a 'perfect' offseason, so there is no priority of occurences, so don't feel the need to list them in order of your preferred events. Additionally, remember that you're the owner and GM; so I don't care what Clark will spend, or what Pioli would do. It's your toy. Mine: Re-sign Carr (ballpark his deal at Flowers; $8 mil cap hit). Franchise Bowe ($8.5 mil cap hit). Sign Manning to a 3-yr deal giving him a marginal signing bonus but a fairly significant year 1 salary. Manning isn't a guy that will shut it down in years 2 and 3 if he's paid the bulk of his K in year 1 so he's a perfect use of our 'rollover' funds. You could give him a hefty guaranteed base salary (10 millionish) and a signing bonus of another 10 million(ish), thus guaranteeing him $20 million without knowing if he can throw; I don't think any other teams are willing to do that. You'll end up with a cap hit just shy of $14 million that way. Sign Soliai. He, OTOH, may be a guy that would shut it down if he gets paid large up front, so we'll want to go 'conventional' with his deal. Vince Wilfork signed a record deal for NTs and his cap hit has been fairly reasonable for the last 2 years, with the best source I could find having it at about 5 million last year. Kyle Williams just re-signed for 6/39. Ngata has blown the scale a little bit in his new deal, but even it only has cap figures of about $7 million and $10.5 million in the first 2 seasons, with increases of about $2 million/season thereafter. The good news is that my memory is that Hali's contract was frontloaded, so it could easily offset that increase. But let's be pessimistic and say that Soliai gets a 'ngata' deal (unlikely, IMO) and we get an $8 million cap hit. So you have cap hits of 8, 8.5, 14 and 8; about $38.5 million. Some say we get $63 million to play with, others are suggesting $37 million. In either event, at $37 million, money could be moved, contracts re-structured in a manner to make those 4 players fit, IMO. And if we have $60 some - well it's all the easier. Draft time: 1) Trent Richardson, RB -- Dunno what we'll have in Charles and Richardson's skills as a pass-blocker/WR out of the backfield could help Manning out a ton. Our offense would be the best in the league at that point, IMO. 2) Zebrie Sanders, RT -- I think many concerns that LTs will go very high in the draft are well founded; I expect a run on LTs. The good news is that Sanders doesn't appear to be well suited to play LT and isn't quite a first round talent anyway. He appears to be very likely to fall to us, a capable pass-blocker (though not elite; hence his status as a likely RT) and a very good run-blocker. 3) Kevin Zeitler, G -- I know, I'm gonna get 'truefanned' to death here; but I don't think expecting Foles in the 3rd is reasonable. The ability to turn over 2/5 of our O-line as well as having a ton of young talent on that line is just too much to pass up. This kid is a road-grader and could give us just a little bit more of a nasty streak inside with Asomoah. 4) FANGUPO! -- Okay, with Soliai, we don't really need him; I just like his name. Honestly I'd love to see Ryan Broles, WR with this pick. If he comes back healthy, he's absolutely electric. He'd be what McCluster was supposed to be in the slot. He probably wouldn't be to full speed this season but we honestly wouldn't need him there just yet. He'd be a fantastic long-term weapon to get this late. 5) Michael Egnew, TE -- His senior bowl performances swayed me. Big kid, great hands. I think he can be taught to be at least a Dallas Clark level blocker. He'd be a great insurance policy for Moeaki and he's always been healthy as a horse. 6) Ryan Lindley -- Why not? I think he has some talent to work with. 7) I dunno - go find me a raw linebacker that can crack some skulls on special teams. Or a corner with some tools that might be an adequate dime-back some day. How 'bout Asa Jackson? Short but with speed to burn. D'Anton Lynn would also work here; taller but not as athletic. Probably wouldn't have lasted as long had he not gotten hurt last year. Probably a nice value pick here, but not as much upside as Jackson, IMO. So there you have it - my 'ideal' offseason. What say you? How would your perfect offseason go? (EDIT: **** me...that's really long. My bad)
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tredadda Three-Pat Join Date: May 2011 Location: Colorado Springs Casino cash: $-1994947	1. Resign Carr 2. Resign Bowe 3. Sign Soliai 4. Sign Nicks, or Grubbs 5. Sign the law firm 5. Trade out of the first this year, hopefully get a first rounder next year for it. 6. Draft BPA at RT in RD 2 7. Draft BPA in a position of need throughout rest of draft. Next year use two 1st rounders and whatever else necessary to trade up an take best QB in draft.
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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	Ideal: Tag Bowe. Sign Carr, Soliai, Meyers, Randy Moss. Trade this years 1st, Bowe, next years 1st to the Rams for RGIII. Find a RT somewhere in the 2nd - 7th. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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