Ryan Braun tests positive for PED

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by UCF Knight

He's innocent in my book.

I have very little doubt that he took PEDs, but who really cares anyway? It's professional sports. Let them take what they want.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I have very little doubt that he took PEDs, but who really cares anyway? It's professional sports. Let them take what they want.

I now think Braun was probably dirty.

It is possible that he was clean, in that every test has a positive failure rate, and if he was one of those 1 in a million people or 10 million people or whatever the odds are for that test to get false positives on both samples, then it sucks for him and he's the unluckiest man in all of sports (cancelled out by luck yesterday), but we have to accept a test with a very, very low false positive rate, especially with 2 samples. Someone somewhere someday probably in some olympic sport no one cares about will probably get screwed, but I really doubt that theoretical lottery-winner was Braun.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by alnorth

I now think Braun was probably dirty.

It is possible that he was clean, in that every test has a positive failure rate, and if he was one of those 1 in a million people or 10 million people or whatever the odds are for that test to get false positives on both samples, then it sucks for him and he's the unluckiest man in all of sports (cancelled out by luck yesterday), but we have to accept a test with a very, very low false positive rate, especially with 2 samples. Someone somewhere someday probably in some olympic sport no one cares about will probably get screwed, but I really doubt that theoretical lottery-winner was Braun.

From the ESPN article the founds Synthetic Test in his 2nd sample and Brauns side didn't even dispute that. They just went after the TE ratio.

[alnorth]

I also read that it probably wasn't just a pee test divided into 2 samples, its more comprehensive than that, and he probably failed a series of tests. The last test was likely a sophisticated blood test.

All of those tests have false positive rates, but to coincidentally get a false positive on all of them is 1 in millions lottery type of odds.