just more speculation about RGIII

[tooge]

Well, at least they mention the chiefs


Robert Griffin trade rumors already spinning out of control
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 28, 2012, 4:04 PM EST

APForget the Combine. Forget free agency. Robert Griffin III trade chatter dominates the NFL discussion these days.

And it’s still February.

Perhaps Rams COO Kevin Demoff is right: It’s getting less crazy to imagine a deal could be completed before free agency. We’ve read and heard an unprecedented amount of trade rumors about the No. 2 overall pick for this time of year.

Let’s go over the latest:

1. Mike Jones of the Washington Post writes the Redskins would give up the No. 6 overall pick and next year’s first round pick in addition to multiple picks in the mid-to-upper rounds of the draft. Consider this the starting point for negotiations.

The Rams are reportedly looking for a similar package to the one San Diego netted for Eli Manning: Two firsts (including the No. 4 overall pick), a third- and fifth-round pick. The Redskins sound ready to meet this demand.

2. Texas A&M prospect Ryan Tannehill is watching the Griffin talk closely. Jones believes the Redskins would take Tannehill at No. 6 overal if they can’t get Griffin.

3. Terry Pluto of the Cleveland Plain-Dealer believes the Browns will ultimately have to give up three first-round picks in order to land Griffin. Do I hear four, Redskins? (This reminds us of a classic article by the Onion.)

4. Demoff told Peter King of SI.com that the Rams received a feeler from a team “you would never expect.” Does Kansas City count? If not, we’ll roll with Philadelphia as our irresponsible guess for a mystery team. Enter your pick below.

5. The St. Louis Post-Dispatch considers the Redskins the early favorite to land Griffin. This sounds true based on all the reports, plus Mike Shanahan’s close relationship with Jeff Fisher.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by eric007

Yes I have seen him play. Yes all that cute crap works in college not the nfl. Yes he completed passes against big 12 defense,COME ON NOW. Take the rose colored glasses off and look at the big picture.

Texas A&M played in the Big 12 also, and you want Tannehill? You are a troll

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by eric007

Yes I have seen him play. Yes all that cute crap works in college not the nfl. Yes he completed passes against big 12 defense,COME ON NOW. Take the rose colored glasses off and look at the big picture.

He still hit guys in stride 20+ yards down the field. I could care less who is covering him, or how much separation the WR has, hitting them in the hands is hitting them in the hands. Our current QB can't do that beyond 5 yards.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by eric007

Yes I have seen him play. Yes all that cute crap works in college not the nfl. Yes he completed passes against big 12 defense,COME ON NOW. Take the rose colored glasses off and look at the big picture.

Yeah, the cute crap like a 72.4% completion percentage and a 6:1 TD/INT ratio?

Considering that Tannehill only had a 61.6% completion percentage and a 2:1 TD/INT ration against the same defenses says quite a bit about the level of dropoff between him and the next tier QBs.

You want to talk about "silly" defenses? Look at what Luck faced...PAC 10 Ds. Yet you don't talk about his lack of a football acumen.....

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by tredadda

He still hit guys in stride 20+ yards down the field. I could care less who is covering him, or how much separation the WR has, hitting them in the hands is hitting them in the hands. Our current QB can't do that beyond 5 yards.

FYP

[Epic Fail 007]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

Yeah, the cute crap like a 72.4% completion percentage and a 6:1 TD/INT ratio?

Considering that Tannehill only had a 61.6% completion percentage and a 2:1 TD/INT ration against the same defenses says quite a bit about the level of dropoff between him and the next tier QBs.

You want to talk about "silly" defenses? Look at what Luck faced...PAC 10 Ds. Yet you don't talk about his lack of a football acumen.....

I don`t talk about luck because no chance of drafting him. But hell yes I think the same of him the defenses he faceed were worse. I do think luck is under prepared for the nfl. One reason newton was prepared is because he faced strong SEC defenses.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by eric007

I don`t talk about luck because no chance of drafting him. But hell yes I think the same of him the defenses he faceed were worse. I do think luck is under prepared for the nfl. One reason newton was prepared is because he faced strong SEC defenses.

Who gives a crap what they can handle the first year in the NFL. Luck is going to be great in this league in all likelyhood, and RG3 has a great chance as well. Not sure how somebody can watch RG3 play and think he is only good because he is a better athlete than college kids. Then again I assume most people can spell correctly so anything is possible.

[Sofa King]

Originally Posted by eric007

No sofa,Erics not a troll your one to talk. Im not here to be a robot and post the in popular thing.

wat


And I'm fully aware you're not here to post the popular thing. Quite the opposite. You're here only to post the unpopular thing. That makes you a troll, troll.

[Carlota69]

Sorry if repost...

http://nfl.si.com/2012/02/29/who-mig...2_a2&eref=sihp


Kansas City Chiefs: Another team that met with Griffin at the combine, thereby at least kicking the tires on this possibility. Kansas City picks 11th, so the Chiefs would have to offer up a trade package even more lucrative than what Cleveland, Washington, Miami or possibly Buffalo could. Maybe they’d have to toss in a worthwhile player too — and since I’m wildly spitballing scenarios, I’ll toss out Jonathan Baldwin as a fit for the receiver-needy Rams if the Chiefs keep Dwayne Bowe in the fold.

The hurdles would be numerous for Kansas City to weave its way to the top of the draft, but remember that this is a team far from satisfied with its quarterback situation.

[Okie_Apparition]

yes, yes it is

[Dayze]

It'll never happen but I would imagine this place would implode I'd we somehow worked a deal to get RGIII.

....then kietzman would criticize the pick on Friday p.m.

[chiefzilla1501]

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Every QB needs a good supporting cast to get to the next level.

Then you would agree that rgiii alone isn't enough. We have to get him, be able to keep our own and continue to be successful in the draft. We can't draft a qb and abandon building his supporting cast trhough the draft. And our drafts mean nothing of we don't have a franchise qb.

And no, the elite qbs can win in spite of their supporting cast. We saw how bad pwytons supporting cast was. We've seen Brady and Rodgers win games even with a ton of injuries on the team. It's a rare qb that can do that.

[Okie_Apparition]

Dog gone we're smart enough
we're good enough
& RGIII likes us

[Mr. Laz]

The problem is how the market for RGIII has exploded

It doesn't look like a couple 1st rounders will be enough and we will have to give up an additional pick to beat out Cleveland,Washington and Miami.

just for kicks, let's say we do tag/trade Bowe or Carr and get an additional 1st round pick.

our 1st (11)
bowe/carr 1st round(how high makes a big difference, let's say Dallas at 14)
our 2nd round pick
next year's 2nd

that's still probably not as much as the others are offering because we are at 11th. Would it be enough offer next year's 1st instead of the 2nd? I dunno

our 1st(11th)
our other 1st(14)
2nd round pick
next year's 1st

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Laz

The problem is how the market for RGIII has exploded

It doesn't look like a couple 1st rounders will be enough and we will have to give up an additional pick to beat out Cleveland,Washington and Miami.

just for kicks, let's say we do tag/trade Bowe or Carr and get an additional 1st round pick.

our 1st (11)
bowe/carr 1st round(how high makes a big difference, let's say Dallas at 14)
our 2nd round pick
next year's 2nd

that's still probably not as much as the others are offering because we are at 11th. Would it be enough offer next year's 1st instead of the 2nd? I dunno

our 1st(11th)
our other 1st(14)
2nd round pick
next year's 1st

Can't do that. It will set this franchise back 5-6 years. Too expensive. We just need to hope he falls to us or hope a good one falls to us next year, or the year after that, or the year after that etc.... Until then we will start someone else's backup or washed up veteran.

[Okie_Apparition]

Fisher loves him a good thug
Damn Pioli & his right 53