Chiefs interested in Soliai and Manning could hold up FA in general

[Carlota69]

Soliai has suitors, but Peyton chase could be a factor
Posted by Mike Florio on March 13, 2012, 10:56 AM EDT

APMike Freeman of CBSSports.com raised an interesting point earlier today on Twitter.

“When does the Manning backlash begin?“

The answer could be “very soon,” when fans and media begin to realize that Peyton’s indecision could keep teams on the sidelines in free agency.

Multiple league sources have pointed out already that some teams will wait to see whether they land Peyton before opening the change purse for other players. One guy caught in that dilemma, we’re told, is Dolphins nose tackle Paul Soliai.

Soliai played under the franchise tag in 2011, and he’ll hit the market at 4:00 p.m. ET on Tuesday. A league source tells PFT that the Broncos, Dolphins, Chiefs, Colts, 49ers, Patriots, and Falcons are interested.

But three of those teams (Denver, Miami, San Fran) reportedly are (or, at to the Niners, may be) in the Peyton chase. And so, while other teams that aren’t maneuvering for Manning are interested in Soliai, it’s hard to max out the market if half of the interested teams are twiddling their thumbs for Peyton.

The Broncos have the cap space to allow them to start spending while waiting for Peyton. Still, they need to know how to best budget their money, especially if Peyton will be bringing Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark and Jeff Saturday.

Bottom line? While free agency begins in five hours, it may not really get going until Peyton picks a team.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Micjones

He's probably going to go in the late part of Round 1.

Hmmm....that sucks. I had gotten used to see him behind Miller (foolishly, really).

Miller with the #2 is fine as well; he's just not as shifty as Wilson. He's more of a Michael Bennett type; see edge, run at edge, hope he beats you to it. He's not as fluid and won't have quite the upside.

But in all honesty, with that line in front of him, beating teams to the edge is probably going to be a pretty common occurrence.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Nah. Much rather draft a young speedy back rather than sign another broke dick. We don't need Thomas Jones Part II

Thomas Jones was a good #2 in his first year here.
We don't need an all-world back in that role.
Just someone who can pick up a blitz, catch the ball out of the backfield and help in short-yard situations. That said, I'm not opposed to drafting a RB.

[Titty Meat]

DJ made me hate the Chiefs a little less today.

[tooge]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I hate to go all truefan here, but take a look at this team with a couple of additions and easy draft picks:

Sign Soliai
Sign Winston
Sign Orton
Draft DeCastro (Richardson is gone with the RGIII deal, IMO)

We would have the best offensive line in football and it wouldn't even be that close. We would have a QB that has proven capable of throwing for 3,500+ yards when given time and a supporting cast. Good lord - how do you stop us from running right with DeCastro and Winston over there? And we're not exactly dogmeat with Albert and Asomoah on the other side. Especially when you have to respect Moeaki in the seam, Baldwin deep and Bowe over the middle...y'know, since we have a real QB at that point.

We would have an extremely young defense with literally not a single real hole, though you'd like to see a more dynamic threat at the DEs, that's just not how Romeo plays.

Those 4 moves are extremely doable and would make us a legitimate contender. Use a 2nd rounder on David Wilson, a 3rd on Broyles, a 4th on a TE...

We'd be ready to rock.

That team can win a championship. It's not sexy, it's not flashy, but it's incredibly doable.

If this happened, Manning can take his long ass broke neck to Dungver and we'd still kick their asses.

[tooge]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Hmmm....that sucks. I had gotten used to see him behind Miller (foolishly, really).

Miller with the #2 is fine as well; he's just not as shifty as Wilson. He's more of a Michael Bennett type; see edge, run at edge, hope he beats you to it. He's not as fluid and won't have quite the upside.

But in all honesty, with that line in front of him, beating teams to the edge is probably going to be a pretty common occurrence.

What about Michael Bush? Big, Physical, not too many miles on him, what, in his fourth year? Nice one two three punch with JC, Dex, and Bush.

[Viper400]

The offense with Cassel will struggle again. Will have to rely on the running game. Sign Winston and Nicks/Grubbs. Maybe Dallas Clark.

With no decent FA QB's out there, only other option is to bolster the D. Sign Soliai.

[Strongside]

The more I read here, the more I don't give a flying **** that we're not getting Peyton Manning.

[Dayze]

Originally Posted by Viper400

The offense with Cassel will struggle again. Will have to rely on the running game. Sign Winston and Nicks/Grubbs. Maybe Dallas Clark.

With no decent FA QB's out there, only other option is to bolster the D. Sign Soliai.

he's broken; just like Moeaki

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I hate to go all truefan here, but take a look at this team with a couple of additions and easy draft picks:

Sign Soliai
Sign Winston
Sign Orton
Draft DeCastro (Richardson is gone with the RGIII deal, IMO)

We would have the best offensive line in football and it wouldn't even be that close. We would have a QB that has proven capable of throwing for 3,500+ yards when given time and a supporting cast. Good lord - how do you stop us from running right with DeCastro and Winston over there? And we're not exactly dogmeat with Albert and Asomoah on the other side. Especially when you have to respect Moeaki in the seam, Baldwin deep and Bowe over the middle...y'know, since we have a real QB at that point.

We would have an extremely young defense with literally not a single real hole, though you'd like to see a more dynamic threat at the DEs, that's just not how Romeo plays.

Those 4 moves are extremely doable and would make us a legitimate contender. Use a 2nd rounder on David Wilson, a 3rd on Broyles, a 4th on a TE...

We'd be ready to rock.

That team can win a championship. It's not sexy, it's not flashy, but it's incredibly doable.

Winning ugly like you have described above looks more and more like the only way we will ever be able to compete for a championship.
If we continue to improve this team we will continue to win a game or 2 more ever season. Moving us further and further down the draft board.
With the new rookie contract system more teams are willing to draft a QB early in the first or trade up if they have to because the risk is so much lower.
We already seen that it took 2 1st rounders and a 2cd rounder to move up 4 spots. What is it going to take next year if we are setting at 15 or 16?

[sedated]

I don’t care what we do with the other 21 positions, if our starting QB is Matt Cassel, we aren’t winning a playoff game next season.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Winning ugly like you have described above looks more and more like the only way we will ever be able to compete for a championship.
If we continue to improve this team we will continue to win a game or 2 more ever season. Moving us further and further down the draft board.
With the new rookie contract system more teams are willing to draft a QB early in the first or trade up if they have to because the risk is so much lower.
We already seen that it took 2 1st rounders and a 2cd rounder to move up 4 spots. What is it going to take next year if we are setting at 15 or 16?

We'll never actually compete for a championship if we're forced to "win ugly".

It seems like 9-7 and an occasional playoff win is about all we can hope for.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

We'll never actually compete for a championship if we're forced to "win ugly".

It seems like 9-7 and an occasional playoff win is about all we can hope for.

Keep saying it if it makes you feel better.

But the Ravens and 49ers were both muffed special teams plays away from beating 2 of the 6 best QBs in the NFL to go to the Super Bowl last year.

It can be done - you just don't have as great a margin for error. With those moves, you don't need one.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

We'll never actually compete for a championship if we're forced to "win ugly".

It seems like 9-7 and an occasional playoff win is about all we can hope for.

Yeah if we were to make moves like those that DJ posted we might even go 11-5 with Cassel, like he did in New England. We all know it was because of the supporting cast!!!
Then either get put out in the first round, as usual, or might even get a win which we would all love. But that is as far is it will go with Cassel IMO.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Keep saying it if it makes you feel better.

But the Ravens and 49ers were both muffed special teams plays away from beating 2 of the 6 best QBs in the NFL to go to the Super Bowl last year.

It can be done - you just don't have as great a margin for error. With those moves, you don't need one.

Close only counts in horseshoes and hanggernades.

The Ravens and 49ers were both muffed special teams plays away. Just like the Chiefs in 1995 and how many other dozens of teams over the years?

The 2000 Ravens are an anomaly.

Yes, it can be done. But holding your breath waiting for the 1 in 100000 chance is going to end up with you suffocating, not with the Chiefs ground-pounding their way to a Super Bowl...

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Yeah if we were to make moves like those that DJ posted we might even go 11-5 with Cassel, like he did in New England. We all know it was because of the supporting cast!!!
Then either get put out in the first round, as usual, or might even get a win which we would all love. But that is as far is it will go with Cassel IMO.

Cassel would not be the starter with the moves I suggested.