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Old 03-13-2012, 11:01 AM   #1
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Manning threw 8 picks in 3 games in 2010.

Everyone throws interceptions if they try to stretch the field. And only one of those 2 picks was truly on Orton. Cassel only threw 7 picks 2 years ago and he was largely useless as an NFL QB that season.

People are DESPERATELY trying to diminish Orton's ability because they spent 3 years doing so while he was in Denver.

The kid can play and he's a very nice fit for this team.
Orton's career numbers are almost IDENTICAL to Matt Cassel's.

He's not an upgrade, he's a different flavor of the same cheap ice cream.
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:02 AM   #2
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Orton's career numbers are almost IDENTICAL to Matt Cassel's.

He's not an upgrade, he's a different flavor of the same cheap ice cream.
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:04 AM   #3
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Orton's career numbers are almost IDENTICAL to Matt Cassel's.

He's not an upgrade, he's a different flavor of the same cheap ice cream.
Ok, who is a better option then?
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:38 AM   #4
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Ok, who is a better option then?
I already said Matt Cassel was the better option, at least over Orton.
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:41 AM   #5
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I already said Matt Cassel was the better option, at least over Orton.
Come on man
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:45 AM   #6
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Come on man
I'd MUCH rather have 1 more year of Cassel vs. 3 or 4 years of Orton.
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:46 AM   #7
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I'd MUCH rather have 1 more year of Cassel vs. 3 or 4 years of Orton.
How about 1 vs 1? Say Cassel is out and they realize it's a mistake, We sign Orton to a 1 year deal.
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:50 AM   #8
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How about 1 vs 1? Say Cassel is out and they realise it's a mistake, They sign Orton to a 1 year deal.
It's gonna depend on the dollars.

That year of Cassel is already paid for...
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:50 AM   #9
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How about 1 vs 1? Say Cassel is out and they realise it's a mistake, They sign Orton to a 1 year deal.
Not to mention that fact that it makes ZERO logical sense to sign Orton for just 1 year.

If he is gone after year 1, that means he SUCKED and therefore we were no better off than just keeping Cassel.

If he doesn't suck, then he's gonna be here longer than 1 year.
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:52 AM   #10
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I'd MUCH rather have 1 more year of Cassel vs. 3 or 4 years of Orton.
is that the only option? 1 year of Cassel or 3 or 4 years of Orton? No, it's not. Orton is 100 times better than Cassel. He's been around and has probably learned from his experiences with different coaches and probably got better for it. Orton might be able to win us a playoff game, Cassel will never be able to do that. I'll take Orton for a year or 2 and draft Tannehill, if he makes it past Cleveland.
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:43 PM   #11
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is that the only option? 1 year of Cassel or 3 or 4 years of Orton? No, it's not. Orton is 100 times better than Cassel. He's been around and has probably learned from his experiences with different coaches and probably got better for it. Orton might be able to win us a playoff game, Cassel will never be able to do that. I'll take Orton for a year or 2 and draft Tannehill, if he makes it past Cleveland.
Orton is 100 times better than Cassel?
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Orton's career numbers are almost IDENTICAL to Matt Cassel's.

He's not an upgrade, he's a different flavor of the same cheap ice cream.
I am not advocating for Orton but I believe he is a lot better than Cassel.

In your honest opinion when you watched Orton last year could you not tell how better he ran the offense than Cassel? One of the first things I noticed was how defenses played the Chiefs with Orton at QB compared to Cassel\Palko. They actually had to respect the pass for once.
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:40 AM   #13
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I am not advocating for Orton but I believe he is a lot better than Cassel.

In your honest opinion when you watched Orton last year could you not tell how better he ran the offense than Cassel? One of the first things I noticed was how defenses played the Chiefs with Orton at QB compared to Cassel\Palko. They actually had to respect the pass for once.
Once they got into the red zone, the offense stalled. That's been a knock on Orton his ENTIRE year.

There's also the fact that he threw for 300 yards against Green Bay and Oakland but then went to Denver and put up a Cassel-like 15-29 for 150 yards.
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:56 PM   #14
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Once they got into the red zone, the offense stalled. That's been a knock on Orton his ENTIRE year.

There's also the fact that he threw for 300 yards against Green Bay and Oakland but then went to Denver and put up a Cassel-like 15-29 for 150 yards.
No argument there. But let's not forget they were missing their best RB and TE and the play calling was suspect at best.

I am not saying Orton is great or above average or maybe even average but he is better than Cassel by a country mile. I would rather have neither of them unless in a backup role but because the Chiefs are ****ing stupid it looks like they are the only option at this point.
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No argument there. But let's not forget they were missing their best RB and TE and the play calling was suspect at best.

I am not saying Orton is great or above average or maybe even average but he is better than Cassel by a country mile. I would rather have neither of them unless in a backup role but because the Chiefs are ****ing stupid it looks like they are the only option at this point.
I believe htis' position is that he would rather just go with Cassel this year ... suck ... get everyone cut/fired ... get a high draft pick ... move forward.

Instead of getting moderate improvement from Orton and keep inching forward.
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