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SPchief · 05:59 PM

We know the 1st two picks. After that? Lets Go!

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**BigMeatballDave** · 04-26-2012, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief_in_Commander

McShay just was asked if we would possibly trade and he said "No, the Chiefs like Barron"....wut?

McShay is an idiot. If Pioli can get something good to trade down, he's doing it.

**BigMeatballDave** · 04-26-2012, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Dumbass.

She lookes good in your sig, but how old it that?

She doesnt look good today.

Ugly Duck · 04-26-2012, 10:56 AM

10 Top Drafts, 2008 - 2010

3. Kansas City Chiefs (2008)

Starters Found: Glenn Dorsey (DE), Branden Albert (T), Brandon Flowers (CB), Jamaal Charles (RB), Brandon Carr (CB) and Barry Richardson (T)

Contributions From: Brad Cottam (TE) and Will Franklin (WR)

Best Pick: Jamaal Charles

Summary: Wow. Six starters, most of whom have been so since Day 1. Finding one cornerback in a draft is rare, but to land two starters is near impossible. That alone makes the draft successful, but factor in landing a franchise left tackle and perhaps the most dangerous running back in the league? It makes you look past how Barry Richardson has played, and gets you looking at Dorsey for what he is: a player who may have been over-drafted but has become a seriously important part of their base package.

5. Kansas City Chiefs (2010)

Starters Found: Eric Berry (S), Jon Asamoah (G), Tony Moeaki (TE) and Kendrick Lewis (S)

Contributions From: Dexter McCluster (WR) and Javier Arenas (CB)

Best Pick: Eric Berry

Summary: Something of an asterisk on this class, because arguably the two best players have played one year’s worth of football in the NFL. Still enough was seen of Berry and Moeaki to back them, while the Chiefs also found late round starters in Asamoah and Lewis, both of whom have looked extremely comfortable on the field. Throw in Dexter McCluster and the excellent Javier Arenas (not just a fine punt returner but solid slot cornerback) and you’ve got a draft class that significantly upgraded the roster.

6. Oakland Raiders (2010)

Starters Found: Rolando McClain (LB), Lamarr Houston (DE) and Jared Veldheer (T)

Contributions From: Jacoby Ford (WR) and Stevie Brown (S)

Best Pick: Jared Veldheer

Summary: McClain hasn’t always impressed Raider Nation, but he’s performed well enough to be a success without having the kind of impact you might want from a Top 10 overall pick. The real stars of this class come later: Veldheer proving an absolute steal in the third and Houston being a constant producer since Day 1. While Brown wasn’t a stud and was eventually released, Ford has brought with him playmaking on special teams and offense that has made a real difference.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...fts-2008-2010/

**BigMeatballDave** · 04-26-2012, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

That's what I'd tell you.

5T is an incredibly important position on a 3-4 defense.

Guard is... not that important of a position. And even then, surrounded with good talent, Lilja was part of the offensive line that led the NFL in rushing.

Lilja can be upgraded, but it's not pressing, and the upgrade there doesn't warrant #11.

I'm lukewarm on Brockers, but there's no doubt he's a perfect fit for this defense in ways Dorsey simply can't be. And won't be, in 2013.

You can get a solid 5-tech in later rounds, just as you can a G.

Rasputin · 04-26-2012, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave

She lookes good in your sig, but how old it that?

She doesnt look good today.

That maybe so I don't care, she looks good in my sig like you said. She has looked good in the videos I posted of her rocking out in the random music thread too.

Mr. Laz · 04-26-2012, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

5T is an incredibly important position on a 3-4 defense.

Guard is... not that important of a position. And even then, surrounded with good talent, Lilja was part of the offensive line that led the NFL in rushing.

5tech in a 2-gap 3-4 defense IS THE GUARD of the defense

L.A. Chieffan · 04-26-2012, 11:02 AM

Direckshun · 04-26-2012, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

5tech in a 2-gap 3-4 defense IS THE GUARD of the defense

You're wrong.

The defensive line faces systemic disadvantages in the 3-4 that no other position on a defense faces, with the possible exception of corner.

You're outnumbered, out-sized, and responsible for more space than your 4-3 counterparts. You have the size of a defensive tackle but you're not taking on smaller, less athletic, less talented guards and centers, you're taking on extremely athletic and more powerful tackles. And unlike the nose tackle, a great DE can stay in all three downs.

If anything, it's like the left tackle of the defense.

Chiefnj2 · 04-26-2012, 11:06 AM

For the record, I much prefer the all day Saturday and Sunday drafts. This new format sucks.

L.A. Chieffan · 04-26-2012, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

For the record, I much prefer the all day Saturday and Sunday drafts. This new format sucks.

+1

Rasputin · 04-26-2012, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

For the record, I much prefer the all day Saturday and Sunday drafts. This new format sucks.

I agree ****ing bull shit how they have it now. They keep ****ing things up for us.

**The Bad Guy** · 04-26-2012, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

You're wrong.

The defensive line faces systemic disadvantages in the 3-4 that no other position on a defense faces, with the possible exception of corner.

You're outnumbered, out-sized, and responsible for more space than your 4-3 counterparts. You have the size of a defensive tackle but you're not taking on smaller, less athletic, less talented guards and centers, you're taking on extremely athletic and more powerful tackles. And unlike the nose tackle, a great DE can stay in all three downs.

If anything, it's like the left tackle of the defense.

What a load this is.

5 tech's and DT's are basically interchangable parts.

It seems the Chiefs are the only ones who believe in investing top 10 picks in a position most other 3-4 teams fill later in the draft.

DTLB58 · 04-26-2012, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

For the record, I much prefer the all day Saturday and Sunday drafts. This new format sucks.

Couldn't agree more.

This is so stupid. The first round ends tonight and everyone is all pumped up ready to keep going and the freaking thing ends!

**The Bad Guy** · 04-26-2012, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

For the record, I much prefer the all day Saturday and Sunday drafts. This new format sucks.

I don't see it ever going back.

The ratings for Thursday night are expected to top 50 million viewers.

Simply Red · 04-26-2012, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

POE

Lime?

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Ugly Duck MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Petaluma, CA, USA Casino cash: $9955920	10 Top Drafts, 2008 - 2010 3. Kansas City Chiefs (2008) Starters Found: Glenn Dorsey (DE), Branden Albert (T), Brandon Flowers (CB), Jamaal Charles (RB), Brandon Carr (CB) and Barry Richardson (T) Contributions From: Brad Cottam (TE) and Will Franklin (WR) Best Pick: Jamaal Charles Summary: Wow. Six starters, most of whom have been so since Day 1. Finding one cornerback in a draft is rare, but to land two starters is near impossible. That alone makes the draft successful, but factor in landing a franchise left tackle and perhaps the most dangerous running back in the league? It makes you look past how Barry Richardson has played, and gets you looking at Dorsey for what he is: a player who may have been over-drafted but has become a seriously important part of their base package. 5. Kansas City Chiefs (2010) Starters Found: Eric Berry (S), Jon Asamoah (G), Tony Moeaki (TE) and Kendrick Lewis (S) Contributions From: Dexter McCluster (WR) and Javier Arenas (CB) Best Pick: Eric Berry Summary: Something of an asterisk on this class, because arguably the two best players have played one year’s worth of football in the NFL. Still enough was seen of Berry and Moeaki to back them, while the Chiefs also found late round starters in Asamoah and Lewis, both of whom have looked extremely comfortable on the field. Throw in Dexter McCluster and the excellent Javier Arenas (not just a fine punt returner but solid slot cornerback) and you’ve got a draft class that significantly upgraded the roster. 6. Oakland Raiders (2010) Starters Found: Rolando McClain (LB), Lamarr Houston (DE) and Jared Veldheer (T) Contributions From: Jacoby Ford (WR) and Stevie Brown (S) Best Pick: Jared Veldheer Summary: McClain hasn’t always impressed Raider Nation, but he’s performed well enough to be a success without having the kind of impact you might want from a Top 10 overall pick. The real stars of this class come later: Veldheer proving an absolute steal in the third and Houston being a constant producer since Day 1. While Brown wasn’t a stud and was eventually released, Ford has brought with him playmaking on special teams and offense that has made a real difference. http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...fts-2008-2010/
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